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GDT | Game 82 | VS Red Wings | Tuesday, April 16 | 7:00PM EST

We got blown out a lot also?

exactly....

our W-L is exactly what it should be given our roster

Bob Gainey wasn't my fave hockey philosopher but I did agree when he said "losing by one, actually means you needed two"
 
It's all about generating more goals than costing them.

Hughes was pretty bad defensively the first couple of years, so was Karlsson.
 
I don’t have a problem with Hutson, I liked what I saw but he needs the partner….. Savard ain’t it. First suggestion would be Guhle, but they have to cost his skeleton in adamantium first, to lessen his injury issues.
 
Needed years to unwind the mess left behind by Holland

When was the last time Wings played a meaningful game on the last night of the season ?

He took over a shit mess like Hugo

And to be fair, Yzerman's mandate is more win now, try to make the playoffs every year than the Habs. The Red Wings can't sell tickets if they lose like the Habs have been losing the last 3 years. So he has to do what Bergevin used to do. Waste time and assets on trying to patch together a team that might be able to squeak into 8th place and get a couple of playoff gates before being annihilated.

What I saw the last two games from Detroit was all too familiar. What they are now is what the Habs were under Bergevin. I don't want to be the team of "make the playoffs and anything can happen". I don't want to use playoff appearances to hide the fact that our team is thoroughly mediocre with no realistic chance of winning. I've seen that movie before and the ending is always bad.

I want a team that is legitimately good and a credible playoff team with an actual chance to win a Cup, not a perennial fraud that finishes 8th - 10th place every year.
 
And to be fair, Yzerman's mandate is more win now, try to make the playoffs every year than the Habs. The Red Wings can't sell tickets if they lose like the Habs have been losing the last 3 years. So he has to do what Bergevin used to do. Waste time and assets on trying to patch together a team that might be able to squeak into 8th place and get a couple of playoff gates before being annihilated.

What I saw the last two games from Detroit was all too familiar. What they are now is what the Habs were under Bergevin. I don't want to be the team of "make the playoffs and anything can happen". I don't want to use playoff appearances to hide the fact that our team is thoroughly mediocre with no realistic chance of winning. I've seen that movie before and the ending is always bad.

I want a team that is legitimately good and a credible playoff team with an actual chance to win a Cup, not a perennial fraud that finishes 8th - 10th place every year.
Yeah, and Detroit is not really a young team . . . and their goaltending is meh at best.
 
Yeah, and Detroit is not really a young team . . . and their goaltending is meh at best.
Detroit is a patchwork team of mediocrity like we used to be. In fact, there are a couple of guys wearing Red Wings unis who used to wear ours (Chariot and Petry) It's no "team of the future"; it's a team of "right now" and by next season it'll be the team of "we had hoped", desperately in need of a tear-down and a proper tank which it may or may not get.
 
And to be fair, Yzerman's mandate is more win now, try to make the playoffs every year than the Habs. The Red Wings can't sell tickets if they lose like the Habs have been losing the last 3 years. So he has to do what Bergevin used to do. Waste time and assets on trying to patch together a team that might be able to squeak into 8th place and get a couple of playoff gates before being annihilated.

What I saw the last two games from Detroit was all too familiar. What they are now is what the Habs were under Bergevin. I don't want to be the team of "make the playoffs and anything can happen". I don't want to use playoff appearances to hide the fact that our team is thoroughly mediocre with no realistic chance of winning. I've seen that movie before and the ending is always bad.

I want a team that is legitimately good and a credible playoff team with an actual chance to win a Cup, not a perennial fraud that finishes 8th - 10th place every year.
Yzerman has drafted well

A few signings I wouldnt do but in 5 years there is progress
 
Detroit is a patchwork team of mediocrity like we used to be. In fact, there are a couple of guys wearing Red Wings unis who used to wear ours (Chariot and Petry) It's no "team of the future"; it's a team of "right now" and by next season it'll be the team of "we had hoped", desperately in need of a tear-down and a proper tank which it may or may not get.
No tear down like Hugo required
 
And to be fair, Yzerman's mandate is more win now, try to make the playoffs every year than the Habs. The Red Wings can't sell tickets if they lose like the Habs have been losing the last 3 years. So he has to do what Bergevin used to do. Waste time and assets on trying to patch together a team that might be able to squeak into 8th place and get a couple of playoff gates before being annihilated.

What I saw the last two games from Detroit was all too familiar. What they are now is what the Habs were under Bergevin. I don't want to be the team of "make the playoffs and anything can happen". I don't want to use playoff appearances to hide the fact that our team is thoroughly mediocre with no realistic chance of winning. I've seen that movie before and the ending is always bad.

I want a team that is legitimately good and a credible playoff team with an actual chance to win a Cup, not a perennial fraud that finishes 8th - 10th place every year.
you need to start treating the Canadiens like you did the Expos and now the Alouettes. Just be happy they exist and don't expect anything. Sometimes you catch lightning in a bottle like the 2023 mediocre Alouettes. The 1970s are loooong gone.
 
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