I need some votes here you jerks

[leafman101]

If its heading into the season then that changes everything because ROR doesn't factor in, and he is arguably the best #5 they've had. But if it includes deadline acquisitions then I think the supporting casts are similar.

ROR = Naz
Bunting = Young Hyman
Krok = Johnsson
Kerf = Kappy
Acciari = Marleau
Kampf > Goat
Lafferty < Ennis
ZAR < Brown

But 2022-23 Matthews/Marner > 2018-19 Matthews/Marner and 2022-23 Willy >>>>>> 2018-19 Willy.

 

[zeke]

I think i was trying for "bulk of the season" type comp. You can include the deadline adds but not really as fulltime players i don't think. ROR only played 13gms.

A "playoffs lineup" comp is a different comparison which we can also do now but is probably better done later.

 

[MyNameIsJonas]

I vote that Zeke is the bestest of bests mens

 

[leafman101]

I think i was trying for "bulk of the season" type comp. You can include the deadline adds but not really as fulltime players i don't think. ROR only played 13gms.

A "playoffs lineup" comp is a different comparison which we can also do now but is probably better done later.

Now you are just being greedy.

I still pick prime big 3 though.

 

[zeke]

Average of p1/60 and p/60

Player: 18-19 -> 19-20 -> 20-21 -> 21-22 -> 22-23 -> 23-24

Matthews: 2.50 --> 2.23 --> 2.94 --> 3.06 --> 2.54 --> 2.76
Marner: 2.72 --> 1.89 --> 2.80 --> 2.98 --> 2.52 --> 2.32
Nylander: 1.53 --> 2.06 --> 2.04 --> 2.05 --> 2.24 --> 2.13
Tavares: 2.61 --> 1.64 --> 1.85 --> 1.75 --> 1.81 --> 1.69

PP gf/60: 7.50 --> 7.74 --> 7.70 --> 10.25 --> 9.01 --> 8.78

xGF%

Matthews: 52.4 --> 55.7 --> 60.8 --> 64.2 --> 56.9 --> 56.5
Marner: 53.2 --> 54.4 --> 59.0 --> 62.4 --> 55.4 --> 52.5
Nylander: 55.6 --> 54.0 --> 56.8 --> 56.0 --> 55.8 --> 53.0
Tavares: 54.1 --> 51.8 --> 55.6 --> 55.7 --> 54.6 --> 55.9

xGF rel

Matthews: +1.2 --> +3.6 --> +4.7 --> +8.0 --> +3.7 --> +4.8
Marner: +0.6 --> +2.1 --> +2.1 --> +5.8 --> +1.0 --> -0.9
Nylander: +5.1 --> +2.2 --> +1.5 --> +0.0 --> +2.4 --> -0.2
Tavares: +2.0 --> -0.1 --> -0.1 --> +0.0 --> +0.2 --> +3.8

DZone Starts - Ozone Starts

Matthews: -9.1 --> -9.0 --> -3.7 --> -7.4 --> -10.7 --> -4.7
Marner: -3.7 --> -5.1 --> -2.8 --> -8.8 --> -7.6 --> -3.9
Nylander: -6.6 --> -9.4 --> -7.4 --> -8.9 --> -8.3 --> -5.5
Tavares: -2.1 --> -4.1 --> -4.5 --> -7.1 --> -6.2 --> -2.5


21-22 definitely seems to be the peak year so far, with 20-21 not far behind.

Marner's off year last year really hurt. Marner's trajectory is actually the most worrying . Matthews bounced back nicely last year after a bad 22-23 but marner fell off even more.

Tavares actually had a bit of an underrated year last year. By far his best on-ice impact as a Leaf last year, despite arguably his toughest usage. Without a huge drop in offense. Makes him much more re-sign-worthy if he can be a possession beast at center still even as his hands drop off.