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msun30 said:
he wasn't as fast as bure, no.

what made his skating impressive was his agility, NOT his size. he could mix speeds, cut and turn with the puck. he had phenomenal lateral mobility.

had nothing to do with size.
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AGREE 100%. Super Joe was plagued by knee problems a la Bobby Orr. In my opinion the most underated player of all time. Phenomenal player. Phenomenal cuts. The shit I love more than anything.

My ten year old dominated a game last night with 18 and 19 year old junior B's and first line high school players.

WHY? Superior physicality, HUGE cuts and SHOT.

They were all stupified when we told them that he has never played a game of organized hockey. Never worn a helmet, shin pad etc... OR played more than four months a year.

AND has only had a stick in his hand for the past two years.
 
msun30 said:
what's silly is that you can't watch those videos and see that staal isn't as good of a skater as nieuwendyk was.

i don't get it.

i'm not slighting staal at all. i thikn he is a very good young player with a bright future. i think he's a great skater.

but joe nieuwendyk was one of the best skaters of his era. amongst forwards maybe the best.

smooth, fast, amazing balance, great laterally, he could change speeds, he could make quick cuts at top speed..

there are a lot of things that staal is better than nieuwendyk (especially in terms of his physical play).

and zeke, honestly, you're way off the mark here. they aren't very similar at all. staal plays like sundin. nieuwendyk had a solid frame and decent size which obviously helped, but he did'nt make a career of outmuscling guys around the outside like staal. he was a finesse player.
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Hmmm... maybe I don't remember Nieuwendyk's skating that well then. I definitely recall him being an excellent skater like Staal but I don't recall him being Paul Coffey good.

Either way, Staal is a great skater. I would say that in the league right now there may be a couple guys that are better skaters than him.

To be honest though, outside of watching a guy look smooth and be able to pull away from other players I'm not really a great critic of skating. When I watch Staal I see him frequently blow past people and he has an amazing ability to cut at sharp angles at full speed while holding off defenders with one arm. So he is also a very powerful skater. He does all that while looking very smooth.
 
and as proof of their perceptiveness... they gave the always-underrated bodychecker ray bourque a 100 rating for body checking.
 
I will never, never argue against NHL '93, which is easily the best video game ever created.
 
You guys see that article about the NES and Stadium Games that sold on Ebay for $13,500 the other day?

Anyone ever have that game? Apparently it's super rare and could get you $$$ in a jiffy if you need some cash.
 
Back to hockey.. with Florida supposedly blowing up their team before the deadline - any interest in Stephen Weiss?
 
BG said:
Back to hockey.. with Florida supposedly blowing up their team before the deadline - any interest in Stephen Weiss?
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If the Weiss from this year is a sign of things to come... **** yes.

If this is just a career year, no.
 
you guys are idiots.. weiss would be our first line center for the next like 3-5 years. stop overrating bozak and kadri.. if we can get weiss for a relatively decent price, there's no reason we shouldn't jump after it. he's a great player.
 
i mean, this is the same fanbase that wants david backes for no reason.. then they cry that weiss isn't a first liner, even though he'd clearly be our best center since sundin.
 
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