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Leaf Rumours

Two things. I pmed Mindzeye a great stock tip of a stock around a buck two weeks ago. Today its basically 2 bucks. Confirmed.

I also pmed him all the contacts I have JUST with the Leafs. I would hope he won't copy and paste it, but suffice to say, its a
bevy of amazing contacts.



If ANYONE here has contacts and can come up with a rumour that is something that I cannot read in a newspaper or Hockey
News, I would applaud that poster.


But here???? Half the posters attack such originality and quality. Its really a sad reflection. Do you love the media b.s.that much?
 
Yeah but regular buyouts suck. Tucker still counts against the cap.

They suck normally because we got nothing for them. But if we get three or four good years out of LeCalves (for Teeds), AND McKinnon, I'm more than happy to see his buyout amount on the books.
 
I will also go against what www.hockeybuzz.com is saying and report that Kessel has very little interest in playing in Toronto after his contract is over with next year. The HOCKEY THING to do would be to trade him at the draft for considerable assets, but Tanenbaum et al, have NO INTEREST in that scenario and have told their whipping boy(NONIS) to keep him and make the playoffs and let him walk.

Remember its a business of hockey gents. Fine wear a sweater, but don't wear any MLSE underwear and panties.
 
They suck normally because we got nothing for them. But if we get three or four good years out of LeCalves (for Teeds), AND McKinnon, I'm more than happy to see his buyout amount on the books.

Leafs have made a lot of money with the cheap US buck for the past three years, the cap and making a round of playoffs. They are engorged with cash. And since they have to put money in a fund to help other teams at a certain point, I bet they are banking on this particular manoeuver to allow them to circumvent that payment.
 
I will also go against what www.hockeybuzz.com is saying and report that Kessel has very little interest in playing in Toronto after his contract is over with next year. The HOCKEY THING to do would be to trade him at the draft for considerable assets, but Tanenbaum et al, have NO INTEREST in that scenario and have told their whipping boy(NONIS) to keep him and make the playoffs and let him walk.

Remember its a business of hockey gents. Fine wear a sweater, but don't wear any MLSE underwear and panties.
Remember when this little fairy tale also included Lupul? Whoops.
 
god dammit Teeds. Stop being full of shit and just give your opinion like a normal person. No one wants to hear about your fantastical rumours that often are literally illegal under the CBA, other than the people who make a sport of laughing at your follies.
 
If ANYONE here has contacts and can come up with a rumour that is something that I cannot read in a newspaper or Hockey
News, I would applaud that poster.


As would we you, if you had a hit rate that didn't make Eklund look like Nostradamus......my contact from MLSE, has had more hits in the handful of things he's shared (as hl, 101, HP, and others can attest), than you have in the decade we've had to listen to your tripe.
 
teeds stock tips have always been great......and no one's ever taken issue with him posting them.





......they have zero relevance towards how inaccurate his made up hockey rumours are though.
 
Lupul and Kessel weren't even supposed to make it through a season with Carlyle, nevermind the playoffs. Face it teeds, even insiders can't forecast future contracts. The market is always changing.
 
Thought i'd pass this along for what it's worth ( which might be nil)

The hawk writer I follow suggested this Leaf/Lightning rumor

LeCavalier and the 3

for

a collection of picks and mid card talent.

Thats a no brainer, any team without cap issues would do it in a heart beat. Have a hard time believing Tampa would let go of the 3rd overall that easily. If Nonis can manage to pull this off, or something similar, he'd be GM of the year in my books.
 
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teeds stop making things up. Just hijacks the thread. People liked you as a poster in spite of your made-up fairy tales, not because of them. You can attention whore other ways.
 
Rumours of the day. Nonis offered Bozak 4 million only, and Bozak wants Grabo money, consider Bozak gone. Its too bad, he is the only guy who can win a faceoff besides McClemment.

And the Vinny rumour? Yes its real, and lets face it, rules are made to be broken. The Leafs badly want some of the top 7 talent in this years draft. Very, very badly. And they are willing to pay. Tanenbaum had a taste of playoff money and wants it every year, from here on in. And he is all over Nonis to get a goalie who can mentor and possibly place Reimer into a backup position.

Bye bye Bozak, certainly not worth the dough, nor is Garbo. Hopefully, this Lecalvalier and the 3rd, is legit, would love to see it happen....depending on what is given up of course.
 
That Lecavalier deal is brutal, and I don’t think it’s farfetched that the Lightning would trade the 3rd overall pick to get rid of it. He’s not worth close to $8 million now, and he’s signed till 2020. 2020!

Plus, the Bolts are up against the cap right now and struggling. If ownership wants payroll to be cut, having Vinny’s $8 mill. on the cap would be a serious impediment to the Lightning contending. The additional cap-flexibility would be worth a LOT to the Bolts – quite possibly as much, if not more, than a top-prospect.

I could definitely see a scenario, which the Leafs are pretty uniquely poised to take advantage of, where the Bolts feel they can’t hold onto Vinny’s contract, but also can’t afford to buy him out. ~35 million and that cap-flexibility for the 3rd overall pick isn’t such a bad deal for them.
 
to me, pressing for lecavalier is a no brainer, whether it nets the team the 3rd pick (which i'm highly skeptical of) or not (i still think that you could get a nice asset in exchange for taking on lecavalier). first, yes, his contract is big and it runs for a long time but let's remember a few important things...

(1) the cap has only gone up and is expected to continue to do so. by the end of the current cba (which expires around the same time as lecavalier's deal) the cap has been projected to go as high as $90mn. a $7.7mn salary under a $90mn cap (8.5%) is about the equivalent of a $5.5 salary under the 2013-14 cap (which is subject to an artificial decline by the terms of the cba). the salary is a bit high right now but projects to be a second line salary in the latter years of the deal, based on an expected inflationary cap.

(2) as the PA suggested would happen, a reorientation of salary now looks inevitable. we need look no further than the contract malkin just signed. $9.5mn per year. getzlaf just signed for $8.25. the salary for front line players is going to go up -- especially for bona fide first line centres which are hands down the hardest commodity to obtain. $7.7 is by no means a bargain for lecavalier, but it also isn't outrageous and may in fact end up being a slight underpayment.

(3) first line centres are impossible to obtain. they rarely hit the market. and the number of bona fide first line centres seems to be diminishing. maybe i'm wrong but it definitely seems like there are fewer top notch first line centres nowadays.

(4) even in his diminished state lecavalier scores at a high rate for a centre. for instance grabovski was a top 30 scoring centre between 10-11 and 11-12. he outscored lecavalier in both years (in real numbers but not on a pro rata basis). all things being equal, if they're producing at the same rate, would anybody take grabovski over lecavalier? i know i wouldn't

(5) it isn't even clear that he has diminished. his rate of production has remained relatively stable since his spike years in 05-06 and 06-07. over that time he has been relegated to the second line because of stamkos's emergence. he has battled some injuries the past two seasons but was reasonably healthy before that (and in any event, has never missed 20+ games in a season nor has been out when it mattered the most).

not only that but lecavalier is a gamer -- he has proven time and again that he can rise to the occasion in key moments. if we needed proof of that -- just look at his ppg perforamnce in the 2012 playoffs.

the leafs need a first line centre. getting one via th etrade route would almost certainly create a large dent in this roster, or cost rielly. you can wait for free agency but how many of thornton, lecavalier, crosby, malkin, getzlaf, datsyuk, staal (what i would consider the current cadre of first line c's who have hit the age of ufa eligibility) have become unrestricted free agents? and if one does become a ufa, what will the cost be?

lecavalier not only lets you keep the roster in tact, and wouldn't cost a player like rielly, but because of his contract might even return another nice asset to complete a deal. his $7.7mn price tag is also almost certainly less than another first line c would cost on the free agency market (with reference to malkin's and getzlaf's post-cba deals).

and of course, the leafs have a one year grace period with him. say he is brought aboard and either looks diminished or does not click with the current roster -- well, then, buy him out at season's end and he can return happy and well paid for life to the lightning.

it's a no brainer, imo, assuming tbay is in fact looking to trade him and he is willing to come to toronto.
 
That Lecavalier deal is brutal, and I don’t think it’s farfetched that the Lightning would trade the 3rd overall pick to get rid of it. He’s not worth close to $8 million now, and he’s signed till 2020. 2020!

Plus, the Bolts are up against the cap right now and struggling. If ownership wants payroll to be cut, having Vinny’s $8 mill. on the cap would be a serious impediment to the Lightning contending. The additional cap-flexibility would be worth a LOT to the Bolts – quite possibly as much, if not more, than a top-prospect.

I could definitely see a scenario, which the Leafs are pretty uniquely poised to take advantage of, where the Bolts feel they can’t hold onto Vinny’s contract, but also can’t afford to buy him out. ~35 million and that cap-flexibility for the 3rd overall pick isn’t such a bad deal for them.

i don't think that deal necessarily fits into their structure (though they're spending way too mich on a shitty D), but the deal really isn't that brutal.

mediocre players like grabovski are making $5.5mn.

lecavalier is a good player. perhaps overpaid if he continues to be a 65-70 point guy, but by an increasingly diminishing amount.
 
The key point being that he's still a valuable player. He's not a Gomez type, who can't even fill a 4th line role. Vinny may not be a true #1 centre anymore, but he's a solid 2nd liner.

To me, the deal that makes the most sense from you and TB's perspective, if they want to basically get rid of him, deal him + 2M per season (salary+cap) to you for Grabovsky. With that:
-TB saves some raw cash for the next couple years, and Vinny is making 10M in real dollars
-TB gets a somewhat useful player in return
-In 4 years (or whenever Grabs' deal is up), then TB is only on the hook for 2M a year for the next 6.
And from your end:
-For the next few years, you're not paying any higher cap hit to Vinny than you were to Grabs', but you get a better player
-For the next few years after that, he's still only getting 5.5M a year or so, which if the cap keeps going up might actually stay in line with his production.

I could see some other 2nd tier prospects or picks trade hands, and that 2M could be up to 3M depending on the terms of the deal, but I can't see them giving up a legit possible future all-star to rid themselves of a contract to a player who is still useful and popular.
 
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