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the last time they headed into a season expecting reimer to carry the reins he was ****ing terrible.

can't blame them for looking at other goalies, if they aren't comfortable with scrivens.

nonis is just playing it safe.

if we have a chanc eot make our team better, we'll jump. he might end up being too conservative for our tastes but i can't complain.

and i wont' complain about them making a reaosnable deal for another goaltender.

reimer had a great year and he has shown some great signs, at least in 2010-11 and 2012-13, but imo there are still question marks. and the last thing i want is a gm who is complacent.

if they can upgrade somewhere, anywhere - even if ti's on a bakcup goalie as assurance - im' perfectly fine wtih it.
 
Bernier's value and potential is being so overhyped. Players in these non hockey markets get so overrated. Meanwhile, Reimer's still a big, smelly turd.
 
JackBurton said:
Bernier's value and potential is being so overhyped. Players in these non hockey markets get so overrated. Meanwhile, Reimer's still a big, smelly turd.
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I don't know if I'd go that far concerning Bernier...He has a near identical track record to Reimer at this point, the main difference between the two is that Reimer has never been stuck behind a Vezina winner.
 
I just hate the idea of Bernier on so many levels.


1) Bernier isn't going to come cheap via trade. Goalies who are former high draft picks who've shown glimpses of greatness are always overvalued. You won't get him for mid round picks or "B" prospects.

2) He's a RFA so you'd have to sign him to a new contract without seeing him play 1 game as a Leaf. He made 1.5 mill this past season and he's probably looking to double that on his new contract.

3) He's not proven at all. Even if you trade for him, you can't even say for sure that he will be better than Scrivens let alone Reimer.


I don't think the Leafs have to make a move for a goalie right now, but if they're so inclined, there will be a lot of them available during for free agency that you can get for just $$$$$$ and not have to give up assets for.

I hope all of this is just typical media nonsense and the Leafs don't pull another Raycroft/Toskala.
 
This Bernier thing is stupid.

He has not proven himself worthy of dropping good young assets or high picks for. And it means absolutely nothing that he was drafted high.

Look at MA Fleury and then look at Lundqvist ... draft position means nothing for goalies - its all how they end up developing long term.
 
mbow30 said:
the last time they headed into a season expecting reimer to carry the reins he was ****ing terrible.

can't blame them for looking at other goalies, if they aren't comfortable with scrivens.

nonis is just playing it safe.

if we have a chanc eot make our team better, we'll jump. he might end up being too conservative for our tastes but i can't complain.

and i wont' complain about them making a reaosnable deal for another goaltender.

reimer had a great year and he has shown some great signs, at least in 2010-11 and 2012-13, but imo there are still question marks. and the last thing i want is a gm who is complacent.

if they can upgrade somewhere, anywhere - even if ti's on a bakcup goalie as assurance - im' perfectly fine wtih it.
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+1
 
Chris Nichols ‏@Nichols_NHLPool 46m

Sources confirm #mnwild in on Jonathan Bernier trade talks and #lakings have asked for Darcy Kuemper as part of deal. Via @Russostrib (1/3)

Michael Augello ‏@MikeInBuffalo
@mirtle Possibilty that the TOR/Bernier rumors are emanating from LA, to drive the price up on teams like PHI, who may have real interest.

James Mirtle ‏@mirtle 55m
And if Bernier's going to backup or be 1B, Leafs have to be careful not to give up a lot of assets or salary for an unproven player in role.

James Mirtle ‏@mirtle 58m

If Bernier's issue in LA is that he wants to be No. 1, I'm not sure how Toronto fixes that. No guarantee he outplays Reimer for the job.
 
The media just throws the Leafs into trade rumours for attention. I'm not buying they're that serious in Bernier. It's not a need.
 
I told you that Tann En Ba um, told Nonis, the whipping boy a la Stellick, to go get a starting goaltender. Bottom line, is that Rask outplayed Reimer to win that series. And certain MLSE high ups, don't think Reimer is their guy, at all. Others think he has some potential. But no one in MLSE and myself included, thinks that a tandem of Reimer and Scrivens is getting us into the playoffs next year. Anyone who thinks those two are the way to go, well, has to take off the brown stains on their MLSE underwear.

GOALTENDERS, like it or not, are the most valuable pieces on your NHL team, and you have to have at least three or four in the overall system. Our NHL and AHL goalies? Compared to other NHL franchises? Has to be dead last or close to it. And if that is the case, no Stanley Cup is going anywhere near downtown Toronto.
 
organicsteroid said:
I told you that Tann En Ba um, told Nonis, the whipping boy a la Stellick, to go get a starting goaltender. Bottom line, is that Rask outplayed Reimer to win that series. And certain MLSE high ups, don't think Reimer is their guy, at all. Others think he has some potential. But no one in MLSE and myself included, thinks that a tandem of Reimer and Scrivens is getting us into the playoffs next year. Anyone who thinks those two are the way to go, well, has to take off the brown stains on their MLSE underwear.

GOALTENDERS, like it or not, are the most valuable pieces on your NHL team, and you have to have at least three or four in the overall system. Our NHL and AHL goalies? Compared to other NHL franchises? Has to be dead last or close to it. And if that is the case, no Stanley Cup is going anywhere near downtown Toronto.
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LOL, seriously? You can't be that obtuse.
 
Those few months we had where the board was free of teeds 'fan-fiction' were pretty incredible.....I'll always remember them fondly.
 
organicsteroid said:
I told you that Tann En Ba um, told Nonis, the whipping boy a la Stellick, to go get a starting goaltender. Bottom line, is that Rask outplayed Reimer to win that series. And certain MLSE high ups, don't think Reimer is their guy, at all. Others think he has some potential. But no one in MLSE and myself included, thinks that a tandem of Reimer and Scrivens is getting us into the playoffs next year. Anyone who thinks those two are the way to go, well, has to take off the brown stains on their MLSE underwear.

GOALTENDERS, like it or not, are the most valuable pieces on your NHL team, and you have to have at least three or four in the overall system. Our NHL and AHL goalies? Compared to other NHL franchises? Has to be dead last or close to it. And if that is the case, no Stanley Cup is going anywhere near downtown Toronto.
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:rolleyes(2):


The Leafs can't possible make the playoffs with Reimer/Scrivens...

The Leafs actually have better goaltending depth than most teams.
 
Our NHL and AHL goalies? Compared to other NHL franchises? Has to be dead last or close to it.
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Except Reimer was 6th in SV% last year...and as a team we were in the top 10. Nowhere near last in the league.
 
This is/was a short season. Reimer and Scrivens is NOT a good tandem in a full season. It just isn't. I really cannot believe anyone here really thinks that. MLSE, or most of them don't.
 
And David Clarkson is really close to Wendel Clark, first guy in a while that actually wants to play here and would take a slight discount to do so. Make it happen Nonis. This is a very good player.
 
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