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mikedumar
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savard dons the leaf jersey you know damm well its time to look for another team to cheer for
this type of move is what we are suppose to be steering away from , that was the old ways of the leafs
but guess you cant teach an old dog new tricks eh ?
wonder what allison is doing again..................
this type of move is what we are suppose to be steering away from , that was the old ways of the leafs
but guess you cant teach an old dog new tricks eh ?
wonder what allison is doing again..................
LeafOfFaith
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What Dumar said.
A Savard move would stink of the days of bringing in guys like Allison and Lindros when they were on the downswing of their careers. But those guys signed one year deals while Savard is signed for forever.
I'm really not a fan of bringing in either Savard or Ribiero. And I can't really picture Burke wanting them either.
A Savard move would stink of the days of bringing in guys like Allison and Lindros when they were on the downswing of their careers. But those guys signed one year deals while Savard is signed for forever.
I'm really not a fan of bringing in either Savard or Ribiero. And I can't really picture Burke wanting them either.
BeLeafer
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The more I think about it, the more I feel that giving up something of real value to the Leafs for Savard would be a mistake.
They signed him to a 7 year contract extension in December. Within a month he got a knee injury that sidelined him for a month. He then got a major concussion that kept him out for the rest of the season, although he did come back for the playoffs (and was largely ineffective).
Year - ppg
06-07: 1.17
07-08: 1.05
08-09: 1.07
09-10: 0.80
The drop off in production over the previous year doesn't seem related to his injuries. It could be that he was missing Kessel.
Whatever the case, this guy is a Bruins problem. Fair value suggests we trade one of our own problems.
Mr. Chiarelli meet Mr. Finger.
They signed him to a 7 year contract extension in December. Within a month he got a knee injury that sidelined him for a month. He then got a major concussion that kept him out for the rest of the season, although he did come back for the playoffs (and was largely ineffective).
Year - ppg
06-07: 1.17
07-08: 1.05
08-09: 1.07
09-10: 0.80
The drop off in production over the previous year doesn't seem related to his injuries. It could be that he was missing Kessel.
Whatever the case, this guy is a Bruins problem. Fair value suggests we trade one of our own problems.
Mr. Chiarelli meet Mr. Finger.
axlsalinger
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As I said when you first brought this up ... I LIKE.
axlsalinger
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Ugh, I don't really like that Schenn option either. Ideally we could trade them Beauchemin, even offering Komisarek instead (their choice). But I suspect they won't be interested at either of those guys at their cap hit, so it may take something else.
Will be interesting as it does sound like Savard will be on the move, and there aren't a lot of options here for Boston.
Will be interesting as it does sound like Savard will be on the move, and there aren't a lot of options here for Boston.
ForeverTML
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Why exactly do we have to do Boston a favor here? They have a plethora of centers in the org and are looking to unload a guy they just signed to a long term deal who is coming off a injury ridden season.
Just no to doing favors (i.e. giving up prospects). Yeah, we need a top flight center, but just not this one and this way.
Just no to doing favors (i.e. giving up prospects). Yeah, we need a top flight center, but just not this one and this way.
leafman101
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How is taking their best player doing them a favour?
Its taking advantage of them.
Its taking advantage of them.
ForeverTML
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The fact is that:
1. They have immense center depth and can live without Savard.
2. Savard was hurt last year, so they may know something we dont.
1. They have immense center depth and can live without Savard.
2. Savard was hurt last year, so they may know something we dont.
leafman101
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They can live without him. But they are also a lot worse without him. Depth aside the only guy they have who could even come close to replacing Savard is Seguin, and as of now Seguin is an 18 year old, who has never played in the NHL, not a 90 point center who is one of the best offensive players in the NHL. He'll most likely never be that, and certainly won't be as an 18 year old rookie.
That team is worse without Savard by a lot.
That team is worse without Savard by a lot.
madvillain
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The Leafs pay however they please seeing as how it's in fact the Bruins who are in desperate need to get rid of their top C, and in fact the Leafs who are their sole trading partner with some sort of need at C.
I'd say it's a nice little situation to be in right about now. They ask for Kaberle, Burkie laughs, then politely offers them one of Beauch or Komi.
T
teeds
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Not that it ever happens but Boston could be a little generous after what happened with the picks.
But at the same time, expecting them to take a couple of stiffs like Komi and Beauchemin is hilarious. Chiarelli would have to get a suitcase with 5 million in unmarked bills to do that. Because his career as a GM in the league would be finished.
If he wants the YOUNG STIFF, Schenn, GIVE it to him. My gawd, a PLAYER for a young stiff? Can't do that one fast enough.
But at the same time, expecting them to take a couple of stiffs like Komi and Beauchemin is hilarious. Chiarelli would have to get a suitcase with 5 million in unmarked bills to do that. Because his career as a GM in the league would be finished.
If he wants the YOUNG STIFF, Schenn, GIVE it to him. My gawd, a PLAYER for a young stiff? Can't do that one fast enough.
JackBurton
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Doesn't look like Savard has that much value anyways.
LeafOfFaith
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Savard should have negative value right now. Not because he's not a good player, because he is. But long and onerous contract, sudden significant injuries, and already at the age of 32, it's just not a good idea. Any way you look at it, he will be getting worse - even without the injuries - from here on out or very soon.
Given the rest of our team (young guys who are still years from their primes), this is a piece that wouldn't fit and would tie our hands for years to come.
That said, there's a price for everything. If the Leafs determine that they like him and want to take a shot, Boston HAS to take Finger and they have to give us a decent pick. This isn't Thornton they're trading, who is healthy and can give you 90 points and doesn't have a long contract. The old Savard may not ever come back at this point.
Given the rest of our team (young guys who are still years from their primes), this is a piece that wouldn't fit and would tie our hands for years to come.
That said, there's a price for everything. If the Leafs determine that they like him and want to take a shot, Boston HAS to take Finger and they have to give us a decent pick. This isn't Thornton they're trading, who is healthy and can give you 90 points and doesn't have a long contract. The old Savard may not ever come back at this point.
LeafOfFaith
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Since I don't want him, a fair price to me would be:
Grabovski, Finger for Savard and 2011 2nd.
Those two contracts expire in two years, trading Grabs opens up a space for Savard to play and to have Bozak and Kadri playing center as well, we take on a long and risky contract, and we get a decent pick in a supposedly poor draft.
Grabovski, Finger for Savard and 2011 2nd.
Those two contracts expire in two years, trading Grabs opens up a space for Savard to play and to have Bozak and Kadri playing center as well, we take on a long and risky contract, and we get a decent pick in a supposedly poor draft.
