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He had 18 secondary assists out of 42 assists or around 42%. Which seems high but then you look at other offensive defenders like Mike Green with 27 secondary assists out of 57 total assists or 47% - it's just the nature of the position.
 
Haha wow you guys get rattled easily.
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No, we just dislike blatant idiocy. It has nothing to do with one being "rattled."

I don't like Kaberle. Sorry. I think he's a great puck mover and excellent skater, however, other than that he does nothing to impress me.
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Well that's a contradictory statement: "he's one of the best players in the league in a certain area but I am unimpressed." By definition his play would have to lead one to believe that he is an asset in that regard and to the team, no?

Yeah, his offensive numbers are great, but how many times has he been nominated for a freakin' Norris trophy? Zero. His defensive game is awful and always has been. Just watch a couple of god damn games.
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These claims can readily be refuted by a two second search you realize?

Tomas Kaberle Norris Trophy Voting

2001-02: 21st
2002-03: 11th
2003-04: not nominated
2005-06: 13th
2006-07: 17th
2007-08: 17th
2008-09: injured
2009-10: not nominated

His style is definitely not conducive to getting high nominations, ala Zubov, but he has been regarded as a consistently well-rounded enough defenceman to get nominations for the award.

I haven't seen a guy cave under pressure so bad in my life.
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This is a total fabrication. You'll see few defencemen in the entire league, Niedermayer and Lidstrom excluded, that are able to control the flow of the game so effortlessly or evade pressure in the defensive zone with such fluidity and aplomb. That's one of his game's biggest assets, not a flaw. Good gracious.

This team hasn't won a cup since 1967, and they aren't going to come any closer if they want to keep guys because they want to stay here and love the city. If Kaberle is so sick, then how come Burke hasn't gotten an offer that he's been willing to accept yet? Not only this year, but last year as well? Oh yeah, because teams like Anaheim aren't willing to give up Bobby Ryan to get this elite offensive defenceman.
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Thanks for the clarification. I think that's the first time that we've ever been informed that.
 
A secondary assist is sometimes more important than the first assist. Especially in Kaberle case, because he's responsible for a lot of outlet passes from his own end that spring offensive rushes/chances. Without that great outlet pass, there's no scoring chance. You're left with Finger dumping the puck off the glass and giving it back to the opponent.
 
Sorry JaysCyYoung, I got bored and fell asleep halfway through your post. Glad that my posts put you to work and you felt the need to go Google how many times Kaberle was nominated for a Norris trophy. You're welcome for the clarification, and thank you for stating shitty facts that I already know as well. Keep on adding to your 21,000 + posts.. people will respect you and think you're smart because of it.

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SO you're crapping on him for using facts to clarify a point, when you pull yours straight out of your ass with zero regard for having ANY merit to your posts. So he's a bit of a windbag. At least he's coherent for the most part and doesn't run off at the proverbial mouth just for the sake of bleating.
 
nah there are definite degrees of dumbness.

nobody tops kb. that guy shouldn't even be allowed to own his own toothbrush.
 
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Latest on Kaberle (BOS,DAL,L.A,NJ,SJ,TB) are all in the mix, Leafs most tempting offer Clowe+1st Rounder.Burke not interested in draft picks
 
Either hold out for an established youngster with the ability to improve (Benn, Neal, Brassard, Voracek, Setoguchi) or simply re-sign Kaberle to a long-term deal at a hometown discount. He can continue putting up 50 point seasons for the immediate future if the Leafs don't get a worthwhile offer. You don't make trades for the sake of it.
 
ugh.
that isn't tempting at all.

if SJ is in the mix it has to start with couture. burke holds the leverage here. they need to win and soon, and the leafs don't need to trade kaberle. so you have to shoot for the stars. i'd tell wilson couture or no deal. maybe, as you move down the wire, you bend a bit and say 'fine, we'll settle on something involving setoguchi.' make it sound like you're cutting them a deal at the 11th hour. but if the leafs are dealing with the sharks, one of those two has to be coming back.

i mean -- clowe? come on. if burke struck a deal like that i'd lose my shit.
 
If the most tempting offer really is Clowe and a 25th or lower pick(which I seriously doubt), it's time to get Kaberle's name on an extension. Burke wants to get better now? Well that's not how you do it.
 
goleafsgo89 said:
Sorry JaysCyYoung, I got bored and fell asleep halfway through your post. Glad that my posts put you to work and you felt the need to go Google how many times Kaberle was nominated for a Norris trophy. You're welcome for the clarification, and thank you for stating shitty facts that I already know as well. Keep on adding to your 21,000 + posts.. people will respect you and think you're smart because of it.

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You're one of the guys who used to phone into the Fan590 and say we should strip the captaincy from Sundin and give it to either Tie Domi or Gary Roberts, aren't you?
 
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SO you're crapping on him for using facts to clarify a point, when you pull yours straight out of your ass with zero regard for having ANY merit to your posts. So he's a bit of a windbag. At least he's coherent for the most part and doesn't run off at the proverbial mouth just for the sake of bleating.
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Please.. isn't there an episode of desperate housewives you should be watching or a Twilight movie? Let the boys have their discussion.

Again, all I said was that he did not impress me. He was a team worst -16. How's that for fact? Colton Orr had a better +/- for Christ sakes. He is excellent at moving the puck and skating, I said it once and I'll say it again, but outside of that he does not impress me and I'd trade him in a second.

You guys can call me dumb all you want, and spend 3 hours putting together your bold and italic pretty posts, I could really care less. It's not going to change my opinion on him. The future is with guys like Dion Phaneuf and Phil Kessel. It's time for Kaberle to take a hike.
 
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You're one of the guys who used to phone into the Fan590 and say we should strip the captaincy from Sundin and give it to either Tie Domi or Gary Roberts, aren't you?
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Nope I loved Sundin and was majorly pissed off at the way he was treated here before he left. If you're trying to say I hate European's, you're wrong. Mats Sundin and Alex Mogilny are 2 of my favorite Leafs of all time.

I don't like Kaberle and don't think he's worth all the fuss. Get over it.
 
goleafsgo89 said:
Nope I loved Sundin and was majorly pissed off at the way he was treated here before he left. If you're trying to say I hate European's, you're wrong. Mats Sundin and Alex Mogilny are 2 of my favorite Leafs of all time.

I don't like Kaberle and don't think he's worth all the fuss. Get over it.
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No, the point I was making was just that you're an idiot.
 
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