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Leaf Rumours

you guys don't seem to realize that trading Beauchemin means a steady diet of Brett Lebda, and kissing away any chance of this defense being an elite one.

Setoguchi is a nice little player, but with the obsession about top-6 bottom -6 around here, it just means that a similar player will end up getting less time, meaning not much improvement.

It's a bad deal for us.
 
I don't see why?
Phaneuf Schenn
Kaberle Komisarek
Aulie Gunner/Holzer

Just play some of the young kids, Lebda would still get some games but an increase in ice time? Doubt it.
 
teeds said:
It would be Kadri OR Schenn. Not both. And I do NOT want to trade either. Schenn is turning into something, something I have never seen before on Toronto. Its unique, and its very good. Its not Orr, Its not Salming, its not Robinson, its not Foote, but its very Schenn.
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And to think he wasnt worth a bucket of spit not that long ago.
 
Kulemin Grabovski Kessel
Macarthur Bozak Setoguchi
Versteeg Brent Armstrong
Brown Mitchell Orr

Minus Brent on the 3rd there, looks like it would give the Leafs 3 lines with some goal scoring talent.
 
Komisarek is barely competent right now in 15 minutes per game, and you guys want him playing top-4 minutes?

bad idea.
 
Teams just don't need 4 big, minute eating defensemen. They don't.

With Phaneuf, Kaberle, Schenn and Komi the top 4 is better than good. Then you have Aulie and Gunnar to round it out. Of course the D is better with Beauch than without him, but you can afford to take that hit with the talent and depth the Leafs have.

Its not a knock on Beauch. The D is just really, really good.

To get a 23 year old top 10 pick coming off back to back 20+ goal years, is just great value, and a deal a young team building to the future couldn't really pass up.
 
Setoguchi is a back to back 20 goal scorer playing with the likes of Joe Pavelski, Ryane Clowe, Danny Heatley and Joe Thornton.
 
Isn't this an Eklund rumour? So... we pretty much know it's not happening anyway.

I'd rather trade Komisarek than Beauchemin.
 
We would clear 2 million in capspace, create more minutes for Kaberle & Schenn and add another forward that would allow us to ice a legitimate 3rd line that can score some goals when Armstrong gets back.

Solid value for Beauch...who I don't hate by any stretch, but who was made expendable by the addition of Phaneuf and the ascension of Schenn.

I would rather move Komisarek, but we're not getting a young player like Setoguchi for Komisarek.
 
I'd rather make a Komi-Penner or Komi-Malone trade.

giving up our biggest minute defenseman for a redundant 2nd line forward is a bad idea.
 
Yes, I'm comfortable with Komisarek being the #4 dman. I'd probably rather trade him, but for other teams Beauch has a smaller cap hit and only 1 year left on his contract.

Why are you so worried? This team will be lucky to make the playoffs in the next year or two with or without Beauchemin, who I guarantee would not be brought back after next year. We DO need more young forwards capable of scoring 30 goals.
 
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