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This boards opinion of Schenn and how he's perceived by other GM's around the league are two different things.

A recent top 5 draft pick, whose already proven he can be a capable NHLer as a teenager, with great intangibles holds very good value around the league.
 
Kaberle and Schenn for Staal, Goligoski and a pick... maybe even a 1st.

That would be a good trade for both teams... but it doesn't look like the Pens have any interest in trading Staal.
 
Habspatrol said:
Kaberle and Schenn for Staal, Goligoski and a pick... maybe even a 1st.

That would be a good trade for both teams... but it doesn't look like the Pens have any interest in trading Staal.
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Are you kidding? That's an unimaginably horrible trade for the Leafs.

And I really don't get this fascination with Jordan Staal. Really. Kaberle is twice the impact player that he is.
 
LeafGm said:
Are you kidding? That's an unimaginably horrible trade for the Leafs.

And I really don't get this fascination with Jordan Staal. Really. Kaberle is twice the impact player that he is.
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I completely disagree... Staal is a beast. Probably the best defensive forward in the league plus he has high end offensive talent and would be a point per game player if he was on the top line on most teams.

Goligoski is a good young offensive defenseman. He would look good paired with Komi IMO.
 
I'm still not sure why we're in a rush to trade Schenn? Especially in a package with Kaberle. That's just a horrible, horrible deal.
 
Habspatrol said:
I completely disagree... Staal is a beast. Probably the best defensive forward in the league plus he has high end offensive talent and would be a point per game player if he was on the top line on most teams.

Goligoski is a good young offensive defenseman. He would look good paired with Komi IMO.
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If his name was "Jordan Smith", people wouldn't be so quick to fap off at the mere mention of his name. He may be 6'4", and his last name may be Staal, but he still only scores at the same level as Matt Stajan. Which also happens to be below the level that Kaberle is scoring at....as a defenseman.

Kaberle > Staal
Schenn > Goligoski
Pens 1st rounder = 25-30th overall, and not making up the difference

Honestly man...give your head a shake about that trade proposal. I think I'll hang on to the #1 defenseman who IS scoring at a 60+ point pace (and who does look great paired with Komi, btw), and take a pass on the center who's scoring at his regular 45-50 point pace, but might actually be a #1 center in disguise because his last name is Staal. And then I won't even get into swapping Schenn for Goligoski. I'm not Schenn's biggest fan, but he carries far more trade value than that.
 
To PIT: M.Grabovksi, A.Ponikarovsky, N.Kulemin, L.Stempniak, W.Primeau
To TOR: J.Staal, C.Kunitz

To FLA: T.Kaberle OR L.Schenn
To TOR: N.Horton
 
Florida has had the same core upfront for a while now and they still suck despite some very good goaltending from Vokoun.

I wouldn't rule out a shake up -- but it probably wouldn't happen until the offseason.
 
Kunitz - Bozak - Kessel
Horton - Staal - Kadri
Stalberg - Hanson - Sjostrom
Orr - Mitchell - Deveaux
 
Guerin - Crosby - Kennedy
Poni - Malkin - Kulemin
Fedotenko - Grabo - Stempniak
Dupuis - Primeau - Cooke
 
Is there any chance Pittsburgh would ever consider trading Malkin? They could use the capspace in any # of ways, and still have Crosby and Staal centering the top 2 lines.

Hypothetically, what would it take? An opening offer of Kessel-Kaberle-Kadri?
 
The Pens were smart enough to not pay to keep their second liners in order to keep all the big guys. I don't understand why people think they would now let go of the big guys to bring in second liners.
 
Kessel, Kabs, and Kadri for Malkin???

No thanks.

Consider that's 27 goals and 60 assists going from us to them for 21 goals and 43 assists.

And that's only because Kadri hasn't played yet.
 
Dont understand the lovein with Stall ...... trading a proven star (kaberle) a solid young dman with plenty of upside (Schenn) for a guy who isnt even good enough to make the top two spots on their team ... hmmm maybe we should be looking at the two other players who occupy those spots ...... now there is real talent.
 
wow...thats an unfair assessment.

There really isnt many players on any team that would remove either Malkin or Crosby.

And if any were available, we dont have anywhere close to the package that would be needed.

You gotta figure at least a 1st rounder would be needed.

Right off the bat, we fail..

Staal would be a HUGE addition..
 
Yeah... I don't really see how one can be critiquing a player for being on the third line behind two of the greatest centres in the history of hockey. Mats Sundin, Sergei Fedorov, Joe Mullen, etc. and a whole host of other talented Hall of Famer-calibre players would be on the third line in Pittsburgh. It says absolutely nothing indicative of Staal's skill that he plays where he does and more about that of Sid and Malkin in front of him.
 
I look at Staal as a bigger version of Gilmour(when he was with Calgary), as in he's been placed into the 3rd line defensive center postion, because he is behind two great center icemen. And if given the opportunity to play regular first line minutes, he'll produce like a 1st liner.
 
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