Leaf Rumours

[Preston_Mizzi]

Yeah they do actually. Lots of GM's are against paying big money for 2nd liners.

The Leafs don't need a guy like Weiss.

ok but he's much better than stajan and this is the lowest his trade value will ever be.. if you get him and then end up not needing him, you ship him or bozak the god out. it's not that complicated.. you can be sure burkie will be going after centers for a long time.

 

[Habspatrol]

I don't think Weiss has really distanced himself from Stajan. He's been marginally better but I would definitely take Weiss over Stajan. I think he has a higher upside.

 

[leafman101]

Weiss's trade value is at its peak right now.

This would be buying high, not low.

 

[Preston_Mizzi]

Weiss isn't that good defensively. Above average maybe.

oh god. i give up. you guys all act like youve seen these guys play and scouted these guys extensively.. it's kind of cute actually haha

 

[Preston_Mizzi]

I don't think Weiss has really distanced himself from Stajan. He's been marginally better but I would definitely take Weiss over Stajan. I think he has a higher upside.

and that's all im really arguing.. it would be smart for teams to trade for this guy considering his upside.. he's clearly a better player than stajan and sooner or later the stats will show that.

 

[leafman101]

oh god. i give up. you guys all act like youve seen these guys play and scouted these guys extensively.. it's kind of cute actually haha

you're doing quite the acting job yourself.

Usually good defensive centers PK, no?

 

[Preston_Mizzi]

Usually good defensive centers PK, no?

you have a very simplistic mind, young fella.. not exactly the brightest hockey mind, to be sure.

i'm not gonna spoon feed you.. i want you to figure this one out yourself.

 

[leafman101]

Heh.

If I don't have a "smart hockey mind," then what does that say about you, seeing as I'm right and you're wrong?

 

[BG]

Weiss's trade value is at its peak right now.

This would be buying high, not low.

You'd aquiring a "2nd line talent" in the hopes of returning a 1st line talent.

 

[BG]

you're doing quite the acting job yourself.

Usually good defensive centers PK, no?

...and this depends on the make-up of your team.

 

[Preston_Mizzi]

You'd aquiring a "2nd line talent" in the hopes of returning a 1st line talent.

don't bother. he won't grasp that.

 

[leafman101]

You'd aquiring a "2nd line talent" in the hopes of returning a 1st line talent.

"Hopes" is the key word.

Either way, not like he's coming cheap after "busting out." His value is high now, not low. Two years ago maybe. Thats the point.

 

[leafman101]

...and this depends on the make-up of your team.

Because the Panthers are just so great, and deep.

D has always been a knock on Weiss. Always.

 

[Preston_Mizzi]

Heh.

If I don't have a "smart hockey mind," then what does that say about you, seeing as I'm right and you're wrong?

you think matt stajan is better than stephen weiss.

 

[Preston_Mizzi]

D has always been a knock on Weiss. Always.

what the **** are you talking about? are you serious? jesus christ.

 

[leafman101]

you think matt stajan is better than stephen weiss.

Never said that.

You're questioning my intelligence, and you can't even read.

 

[Preston_Mizzi]

anyways, i'm done with you. i'm sick of arguing with someone who lacks basic knowledge.

 

[leafman101]

anyways, i'm done with you. i'm sick of arguing with someone who lacks basic knowledge.

Translated to English: "I'm sorry, you're right. I'm dumb."

 

[BG]

"Hopes" is the key word.

Either way, not like he's coming cheap after "busting out." His value is high now, not low. Two years ago maybe. Thats the point.

His team is flushing the toilet after the prospect of missing another year of playoffs - I'd guess they're not asking a ransom for the players they've put on the block.

I'm not saying the Leafs should pony up the future for the kid - but he's worth taking a chance on as a high draft pick with untapped potential.

 

[PlayerToBeNamedLater]

There was buzz that Florida Panthers GM Randy Sexton is working on nine different deals, and it's possible that the Panthers could construct one huge deal during the Olympic break.

The Miami Herald writes, "To make a big splash Sexton might have to deal away some bigger fish" -- maybe Stephen Weiss, David Booth and Nathan Horton and goalie Tomas Vokoun -- "[They] would bring back more of a haul."

Sexton wants to blow up this team, and no one is off-limits. That may mean it's a fertile breeding ground for a blockbuster.

Meanwhile, Sexton is likely looking for a power play forward, a depth defenseman and a tough, gritty player. Panthers may be trading everyone, but if they go small, the most likely trade candidates are Jordan Leopold, Dennis Seidenberg, Rostislav Olesz and Kamil Kreps.




Horton's the guy I want -- 24 year old powerforward with 70-80 point potential.