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Given To Fly said:
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yeah...I was thinking the exact same thing.

I doubt Kaberle is gone unless the deal coming back absolutely blows Burke's socks off. Burke's commented that if they get rid of Kabs, they'd still have to find someone to replace him. I don't think there's another person on the team who can make the soft passes to set up Phaneuf's one-timers, and that's incredibly valuable to jump-starting the powerplay (remember Jurki Lumme trying those with McCabe...god those were awful). If Kabs really likes TO, keep him for the foreseaable future unless the offer is just too good to be true.
 
an observant Catholic and I take pot shots at other Christians all the time.
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Funny, I thought it was the other way around with the history of death, destruction, and child rape. Figured that would put a damper on taking pot shots at others...guess not.
 
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runninglow said:
yeah...I was thinking the exact same thing.
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Did it take a left turn ever? Let's get back to hockey.

I doubt Kaberle is gone unless the deal coming back absolutely blows Burke's socks off. Burke's commented that if they get rid of Kabs, they'd still have to find someone to replace him. I don't think there's another person on the team who can make the soft passes to set up Phaneuf's one-timers, and that's incredibly valuable to jump-starting the powerplay (remember Jurki Lumme trying those with McCabe...god those were awful). If Kabs really likes TO, keep him for the foreseaable future unless the offer is just too good to be true.
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You know, I keep hearing Kaberle will be traded, if not before the trade deadline definitely in the summer.

But then it makes little sense because 1. Kaberle has repeatedly said he likes it here in Toronto, and he likes the direction with the new team, which I have no reason to not believe in him and 2. Burke has also repeatedly said he likes Kaberle as a player, and as a person, and if he deals Kaberle he'll only end up spending more $$ just to come close to replacing him. He also said after the Phaneuf trade he's very happy with his top 6 and he's all set with what he has. This is the blueline for years to come, and 'this blueline' includes Kaberle.

So I really don't know if Kaberle would be traded. I HOPE he's not traded. And I THINK he'll stay. I think the reason for all the Kaberle rumor is 1. he's easily the top trade asset he have and 2. most here think the team has a glaring need in that #1 center spot.

Between Kadri and Bozak though, we might actually be fine up the middle. We just need more physical wingers.
 
That said, I also gotta agree with Player that for some of those returns, maybe it'd be a feasible trade to make, as much as I don't want to see Kabby go.

I hope Burke is taking the position of "blow my socks off and maybe I'll trade Kabby" instead of actively seeking to trade Kabby in the summer.
 
Keep kaberle for what .... to barely make the playoffs or miss again next season????
Get some young talent for him and a few draft choices, then when he becomes a free agent in another year then sign him again .....
There is absolutely no reason to keep him on this team as it is .... with a solid core in place (Sundin, mccabe, tucker, etc) he couldnt help take this team to another plateau ... his fault ... NO. he is nothing more than fodder for a trade ....
 
There's no reason to keep Kaberle? If we keep him it's not only for next season obviously, it's for the long haul.

How long do you think the rebuild is going to take until we become a contender? Another 5 yrs? And Kaberle is only gonna be 36 by then, still very much in his prime considering the style he plays.

This is assuming he re-signs with us after next season of course, but for him to repeatedly say he likes it here, and he won't waive his NTC, I don't see that being much of a challenge.

If you trade him away in this summer what's the chance of him re-signing with you next summer? Very slim. He might not even hit the UFA market at all, as we've seen from so many good players.
 
uncus said:
Keep kaberle for what .... to barely make the playoffs or miss again next season????
Get some young talent for him and a few draft choices, then when he becomes a free agent in another year then sign him again .....
There is absolutely no reason to keep him on this team as it is .... with a solid core in place (Sundin, mccabe, tucker, etc) he couldnt help take this team to another plateau ... his fault ... NO. he is nothing more than fodder for a trade ....
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You keep Kaberle because at 31 years of age, he's still a guy you can build the team around because he will likely be an elite #1 defenseman for another 6 or 7 years. And if you do trade him away, there's no guarantee you'll be able to replace what he brings to the blue-line, and there's certainly no guarantee that he'll come back as a free agent. A team trading away a player, and then getting him back as a free agent isn't something that actually happens almost ever.
 
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