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There always that chance ..... but to get something you have to give something.
Kaberle is one of the few somethings that the leafs have to deal.
Utilize the asset while the opportunity exists ... better to take the chance and ask for forgiveness then to ask for permission sometimes. :)
 
uncus said:
There always that chance ..... but to get something you have to give something.
Kaberle is one of the few somethings that the leafs have to deal.
Utilize the asset while the opportunity exists ... better to take the chance and ask for forgiveness then to ask for permission sometimes. :)
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See...people have been saying that for quite some time. And yet, here we sit with Phil Kessel, Dion Phaneuf and J.S. Giguere all mysteriously in our lineup, acquired in trades by a team that has nothing of value to trade except for Tomas Kaberle.
 
I've always argued that Kaberle is worth more to us than we get in a trade, aside from all the extra non playing benefits he gives (good contract, homegrown player, apparently a good leader). Of course if an amazing offer comes in then you take it, but theres no point in getting rid of the guy simply to get younger or make changes. He's young enough, and plays the kind of conservative game that means baring an unforseeable injury, he's probably not much past the mid-way part of his NHL career.


The guy has basically been on the trade block for the better part of a decade, which is a shame since he's a 'homegrown' player and a fantastic one at that.
 
LeafGm said:
See...people have been saying that for quite some time. And yet, here we sit with Phil Kessel, Dion Phaneuf and J.S. Giguere all mysteriously in our lineup, acquired in trades by a team that has nothing of value to trade except for Tomas Kaberle.
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No we traded something of much more value than kaberle to get kessel ... 2 first rounders that could be top 2 picks ....
As for phaneuf ... well it is about time that we were waiting around like seagulls when sutter had a nervous breakdown and gave phaneuf away .....
As for Giguere ... well lets see after 20 more games.
 
No one said to go younger just for the heck of it ... the cupboard is bare in terms of top end talent ... (God I hope that zeke doesnt swoop in now and bulldoze me with stats lol) ... Kaberle is a good player, no one is questioning that .... and yes he did the hometown discount (rah rah rah) but what have you done for me lately ... He is a nice player and a nice guy but heck I would prefer good and nasty, someone who will bust his balls to go that extra mile ... (and I am sorry to all his supporters) he just doesnt seem that type of player to me.
It is easy to see how he can move and change the motion when given the space and time to move ... but when he doesnt ... he doesnt.:smile(21):
 
As someone mentioned earlier ... it wouldnt surprise me in the least to see kaberle moved for the leafs first (this year) and bostons first next season. Chirrelli isnt in a position to wait around for the fruits of this years draft to mature and come of age ... his team needs to win soon. And chara with kaberle makes them incredibly strong in so many areas.
 
I don't buy us trading Kaberle for our first rounder back. IMO Burke wanted to put an end to Tank Nation for the next 2 years by trading away those 2 picks. He's all about effort, commitment and winning. No way he trades for the pick back after doing so.
 
Boston sucks with or without Kaberle. They ain't winning no cup with him added.

If they want to give us our 1st back for him, I'd have to do it, and hope Kabs goes UFA and comes back.
 
JaysCyYoung said:
Nah, he's my friend in real-life and he's a good God-fearing IRA bastard. Just ignore his Catholic rantings.
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oki doki.

Protestants = Unionists \ Loyalists = good

Catholics = Republicans \ Nationalists = bad

IRA \ CIRA \ RIRA \ UVF \ UFF \ UDA \ INLA = twats

:cheers2:


Everyone knows that a lot of Irish catholics moved to Boston, but nearly as many Irish protestants moved to Ontario.
 
I believe in properly used stats.

Not ones that tell us, say, that Jose Calderon is as good as Paul Pierce.
 
Burke has deals on the table. We will do at least 2, IMO.

Here's hoping dumar's not full of crap this time and we can get our 1st back for Kaberle...
 
No way you get that first back...it's likely a top-3 pick and you have to imagine that Boston knows this isn't "their year".
 
LeafGm said:
See...people have been saying that for quite some time. And yet, here we sit with Phil Kessel, Dion Phaneuf and J.S. Giguere all mysteriously in our lineup, acquired in trades by a team that has nothing of value to trade except for Tomas Kaberle.
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Good point... the other side of that coin is. Every team has draft picks so getting Kessel only really showed that the Leafs were willing to give up more picks than anyone else. Giguere could have been had for a 5th round pick by any team that he would waive his NTC for, the Leafs gave away two negative assets to get what was a negative asset to the Ducks. I think that it was a great trade though.
The Phaneuf deal was just a great deal for the Leafs IMO... and as you said, it did show they had some trade worthy players.
 
zeke said:
I believe in properly used stats.

Not ones that tell us, say, that Jose Calderon was as efficient as Paul Pierce was in 2008-2009
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Fixed your spin for you.


I promise everyone else I will not mention basketball again in this thread
 
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