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You know .... taking on a player like lecalvier could be a real darkhorse for the leafs ..... A true number 1 center that can feed kessel, can skate and run the PP, is as tough as they come, and is still relatively young ... plus I think that in a few years, his contract can be written off because of his age.
 
Oh I never forget that.

But I'm sure Burke will have a presser a few minutes after the deadline and let us know if there's anything else to come, just like he did last year.
 
I don't just mean vs a lesser talent, I mean against anyone.

Carlson is a damn good prospect. I don't care what position he plays.

BPA.
This isn't the draft. You don't make trades using the "Best player available" philosophy. If you trade Kaberle, the only way it makes any sense is if you're trading from a position of strength (defense) in order to address an organizational need at a weaker position.

I don't, however, see the point of trading a guy who WILL be a top offensive defenseman for us for the next 6-8 years, for a guy who hopefully MIGHT turn out to be as good as Kaberle. You're taking a step backwards, and you're not helping out your team today or in the future.
 
Is it me or does it seem that the leafs and their team are unnaturally quiet today? Maybe something bigger is up.
 
Is it me or does it seem that the leafs and their team are unnaturally quiet today? Maybe something bigger is up.
Nobody should be surprised. The Leafs made their blockbuster moves prior to the deadline (Phaneuf and Giguere) and moved most of their most marketable assets in those deals, and then they traded their next best asset in Ponikarovsky last night. There might be some more minor house-cleaning moves coming, but I'll be surprised if anything big happens.
 
As per The Fourth Period

Just got a text saying Tomas Kaberle would consider waiving no-trade clause if the right team presents itself. Teams are definitely calling.
 
This isn't the draft. You don't make trades using the "Best player available" philosophy. If you trade Kaberle, the only way it makes any sense is if you're trading from a position of strength (defense) in order to address an organizational need at a weaker position.

I don't, however, see the point of trading a guy who WILL be a top offensive defenseman for us for the next 6-8 years, for a guy who hopefully MIGHT turn out to be as good as Kaberle. You're taking a step backwards, and you're not helping out your team today or in the future.

IMO the reason you trade Kaberle isn't simply because you need a forward, you only trade Kabby because he is 33 and the rest of the team is 25 and under, so he doesn't fit in with the path the rest of the team is on.

If you are trading him for a young top prospect, it doesn't matter if it is forward or D, either way you are taking a step backwards.

Philosophically, you aren't trading Kabby to get better now, you are trading him because you can get a significant building block for him.

And Carlson is one hell of a prospect.
 
If kaberle goes ..... the leafs will miss him dearly, and only then will most appreciate his smooth style a little more ... but in order to get something you usually have to give something (unless dealing with a lunatic like sutter) and Kaberle is it ... I think I would take my chances trading him for young top end talent, then try resigning him in a year .... if not, then bouwmiester might be available then for colton orr, or whoever sutter will want in return lol .....
 
Just because Kabs is older he doesn't fit in??

He plays like he's 25 and has maybe another 5-6 prime years left, at least.

If you trade him, you do it strategically, not simply to restock your cupboards.

As LGM said, this isn't the draft.
 
Hard to believe, but they were saying that there is only one player left from the entire 2007-08 roster - Tomas Kaberle.

2007–08 Toronto Maple Leafs Roster

Goaltenders

* 1 Andrew Raycroft
* 30 Scott Clemmensen
* 35 Vesa Toskala

* GM: Cliff Fletcher
* Coach: Paul Maurice

Defensemen

* 7 Ian White
* 8 Carlo Colaiacovo
* 15 Tomas Kaberle - A
* 24 Bryan McCabe - A
* 31 Pavel Kubina
* 36 Anton Stralman
* 43 Jay Harrison
* 44 Staffan Kronwall
* 56 Andy Wozniewski

Wingers

* 10 Alexander Steen
* 11 Jiri Tlusty
* 16 Darcy Tucker
* 19 Dominic Moore
* 22 Boyd Devereaux
* 23 Alexei Ponikarovsky
* 26 Ben Ondrus
* 33 Bates Battaglia
* 48 Jeremy Williams
* 52 Robbie Earl
* 54 Kris Newbury
* 55 Jason Blake
* 80 Nik Antropov

Centers

* 9 Mark Bell
* 13 Mats Sundin - C
* 14 Matt Stajan
* 21 John Pohl
* 32 Alex Foster
* 39 Simon Gamache
* 42 Kyle Wellwood
* 50 Darryl Boyce
 
Just because Kabs is older he doesn't fit in??

He plays like he's 25 and has maybe another 5-6 prime years left, at least.

If you trade him, you do it strategically, not simply to restock your cupboards.

As LGM said, this isn't the draft.

No. This Leaf team will start to peak in 4-5 years. In 5-6 years Kessel will be 26, Kadri will be 24, Phaneuf will be 29, Schenn will be 25, and Kaberle will be on the verge of being done.

The rational for dealing him is to get a player who will peak with the rest of the team.

Otherwise there is just no sense in moving him. You won't get a better player for the immediate future.
 
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