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I also don't see Taylor Hall in anything but an Edmonton Oilers jersey for the next decade. He is the best player in his mold to come to the NHL since Mark Messier.
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What a ****ing terrible comparison. Hall is nothing remotely like Messier. Not at all.
 
The weird thing is he's not the only person I've heard say it. Lots of people are jumping on it.

I guess he has that shot off the rush, and likes to go to the net, but I just don't see it.
 
number17 said:
Iggy fits the requirements of what Burke said he's looking for, and it seems like Sutter and Burke are pretty happy with each others as trading partners.

Grabovski I can deal with, but I don't know why Kaberle has to be included, unless there's more coming back in that deal. People (who make up these rumors) have to realize there's a HUGE difference in trade value between a A/ 35G star forward who has $21M left on his contract over the last 3 years, and B/ a star defenseman who has 1 more year on his contract at a very cheap $4.25M.

Few teams can take $21M contract, and that affects Iggy's trade value. When you carry such a big contract you can never trade him for fair value.

Kaberle's trade value > Iggy's, and for Toronto to throw in Grabs with Kabby to get Iggy makes no sense.

I don't think Burke would even do Kabby for Iggy straight up. Something else's gotta come back to make it work.
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Did you really just imply Kaberle and Grabovski is too much for Iginla? Really?
 
Pierre McGuire is the guy who keeps bringing up the Messier comparison in the mainstream media. He said it numerous times during the WJC. What a tool.
 
Hoss said:
From Ek:

Hmmmm.

So the top four dman could be Kabs?? and the first overall for Schenn ++ hmmm

If we are talking BIG here what about Schenn +Kaberle + Grabs for 1st overall+Souray+ Eberle
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I would look at it more in terms of how we free up salary and get young pieces for what Burke is building.

Something more along the lines of:

Cogliano, Smid and the 1st

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Kaberle, Grabovski, and Schenn

I could see Burke trying to develop Cogliano into a 3rd line specialist type, as the kid has so much speed to burn. Him with Sjostrom and Stalberg would make a nice speed line that is good on the forecheck.
 
A lot of teams are trying to dump MONEY. So don't think about untouchable. Franchises are in rough shape out there.

So with that in mind. Who do the Oilers need to dump. Because WE all KNOW that Burke would LOVE to get a pick OVER the Bruins.

Question is: Who does Burke like? Seguin or Hall? Because he will trade Kadri and Schenn AND kaberle if he likes someone. Look at Phil Kessel.

Kadri is a nice player, with a great attitude, but he does NOT have leg strength, and his stick work, MAY only translate into 50=60 points and an injury riddled career. Hall, or Seguin, or Skinner, may be the apple of Burkes eye.

Now that he has Gunnarson and Phaneuf, maybe he is not so concerned with Kabs and Schenn.

Look for Burke to make a splash, it may empty the pool for a while, but he has already visited that area.
 
I'll start off this post with the usual disclaimer that since this idea is coming from Eklund, it has no validity whatsoever, and isn't worth a bucket of warm spit. Purely from a hypothetical standpoint though, if the Oilers were actually to put the #1 overall pick into play, I'd imagine that they would want to dump Shawn Horcoff's toxic contract as part of the deal. $5.5M for Horcoff for the next five seasons is an absolutely crippling contract for them, and it's not like they can afford to bury him in the minors.
 
Kessel, Kadri, Hall/Seguin, Schenn, Phaneuf would be more than a solid core to build around
 
5.5 is a horrible contract these days. That is just a horrible contract. We actually have some pretty good contracts except for Komisarek, which I never liked, Finger and Grabovski. That is pretty damn good. Am I missing anyone?

By the way, Lecavalier looks like he is sort of recovering. I would rather take a contract that can play if we are going to take an albatross.
 
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teeds said:
5.5 is a horrible contract these days. That is just a horrible contract. We actually have some pretty good contracts except for Komisarek, which I never liked, Finger and Grabovski. That is pretty damn good. Am I missing anyone?

By the way, Lecavalier looks like he is sort of recovering. I would rather take a contract that can play if we are going to take an albatross.
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It's probably the worst contract in the league. He's getting paid like a #1 center, but scored at Matt Stajan-esque pace last year (actually, Stajan out-scored him), and then regressed to a John Mitchell-esque pace this year. How the Oilers signed him to that contract even after he regressed to a 50-point pace after the Oil's Stanley Cup final season is beyond me. Kevin Lowe is a stupid, stupid man.

If it means getting a #1 overall draft pick at a discount though, does some team bite the bullet and take on that contract?
 
the problem Edmonton has is that even if they cleared salary... they cannot build their team through Free agency. I mean No one wants to play there unless they are overpaid greatly, and then you are in the same boat you started with. They have to get guys like Hall (Alberta boy anyway and keep him there)
 
Geez, that number is bad enough but the damn thing goes until the 2014-15 season.

I dunno if any pick is worth that hunk of shit contract. Burke seems unwilling to put guys in the AHL. So, he likely won't entertain it. Maybe it works with a plethora of young guys, but that's likely to box you in a few years down the road.
 
Trading for that contract AND putting him in the minors would case a mini uproar around the league of course. It would smack of FREE spend FREE agency all over again. But we can dream can't we?

Eklund sure can it seems. I would love to see it happen in that case, but doesn't Lowe detest Burke and vice versa? Would it be intermediaries involved? Like Nonis?
 
teeds said:
Trading for that contract AND putting him in the minors would case a mini uproar around the league of course. It would smack of FREE spend FREE agency all over again. But we can dream can't we?
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True, but **** everyone. The Leafs are keeping a lot of teams afloat through revenue sharing. It's legal, so they shouldn't care what people think.
 
JackBurton said:
True, but **** everyone. The Leafs are keeping a lot of teams afloat through revenue sharing. It's legal, so they shouldn't care what people think.
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Hey, maybe they can move the AHL team to somewhere like moribund inbred Kitchener, and the mutants can pack the place in watching Horcoff and Finger combine for goals.
 
Ek has had some wacky Leaf rumours the past couple of days. He knows Leaf fans are starving for Leaf info, so that'll get some traffic back to his site. Everyone in hockey misses the Leafs this time of year.
 
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