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BG
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The drive from the Soo to Thunder Bay is a great drive and an even better bike ride. Following the shoreline of Superior makes for some beautiful views especially around Wawa or Terrace Bay.
You want a bear of a drive, take the Northern route (HWY 11) to Thunder Bay. The stretch between Longlac and Hearst is legendary.
hockeylover
Well-known member
I think we've all thought about that. Especially because people like to keep reminding us.
MindzEye
Wayward Ditch Pig
That's more political than anything else.
Edmonton is selling that pick hard to it's season ticket holders, and in this case, the mystery box could be a boat. Wouldn't it be nice to have a boat?
Boston wouldn't just due to optics. Teams rarely reacquire players after they put the bad mouth on them 5 minutes after they traded them in the first place.
Nor would Burke trade him for the 1st or 2nd at this point.
IrishWolfman
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Habsy
Just Walking About Aimlessly
20/20 hindsight? Burke pays the extra million to get Cammalleri and gets Hall/Seguin too. Absolutely puts the Leafs ahead of where they are now.
Like you said, he won't second guess himself or throw Kessel under the bus. It's just illogical to think he'd still do it knowing his pick would be #2.
Like you said, he won't second guess himself or throw Kessel under the bus. It's just illogical to think he'd still do it knowing his pick would be #2.
MindzEye
Wayward Ditch Pig
Depends on what he thinks of Kessel really.
Would you pay a 2nd overall, a 1st rounder in the worst draft of the last 10-12 years, and a 2nd for a guy you think is going to be a perennial 40+ goal 80+ point winger?
It's be a bit of an overpayment, but essentially you're giving up the extra 1st & 2nd for the calibre player you're hoping to get with that 2nd overall, and someone who is 3 years ahead of that pick developmentally. A pretty good comparable for the type of prospect Hall is, would be Bobby Ryan. Ryan took 3 seasons to become an NHL regular.
Do I think Burke would be willing to knowingly overpay a bit to get his guy? Absolutely.
Would you pay a 2nd overall, a 1st rounder in the worst draft of the last 10-12 years, and a 2nd for a guy you think is going to be a perennial 40+ goal 80+ point winger?
It's be a bit of an overpayment, but essentially you're giving up the extra 1st & 2nd for the calibre player you're hoping to get with that 2nd overall, and someone who is 3 years ahead of that pick developmentally. A pretty good comparable for the type of prospect Hall is, would be Bobby Ryan. Ryan took 3 seasons to become an NHL regular.
Do I think Burke would be willing to knowingly overpay a bit to get his guy? Absolutely.
uncus
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Drove it many times and it is a bit of a daunting task .... almost hit 2 moose and watched a wolf (huge).
Anyways, you dont have to go up to pickle lake or to nipigon or the likes to get good fishing. With places like deerrock and mazinaw and the skootamatta 2 hours away ... there is excellent fishing close by without have to use a weekend just to travel. Oh ya, and the kawartha highlands have some interesting lakes .. shark, stoplog, turtle, vixen.
number17
Mod Squad
I agree with mindzeye ... Kessel for 2nd overall pick won't happen now mainly because of optics. Both teams look bad if they make this trade now, the Leafs more than anything. Remember, Burke gave up MORE than just the 2nd overall pick for Kessel.
But if you're comparing player to player, you ask me who I'd rather have between Hall and Kessel, I will HONESTLY tell you I'd rather have Kessel.
1. Kessel is established, Hall is not.
2. Hall and Kessel play such a similar game, and Hall's ceiling is not much higher than Kessel. But there's also a chance, just like there is for any prospect, he does not become a top line player in the NHL.
3. Kessel is only 4 yrs older than Hall. Not a huge difference, and a very fair justification for having an established player.
Now, of course when Burke made this trade he didn't think it'd be as high as 2nd overall. But 1 for 1, I think for me anyways, I'd honestly rather have the 22 year old Kessel than the 18 year old Hall.
But if you're comparing player to player, you ask me who I'd rather have between Hall and Kessel, I will HONESTLY tell you I'd rather have Kessel.
1. Kessel is established, Hall is not.
2. Hall and Kessel play such a similar game, and Hall's ceiling is not much higher than Kessel. But there's also a chance, just like there is for any prospect, he does not become a top line player in the NHL.
3. Kessel is only 4 yrs older than Hall. Not a huge difference, and a very fair justification for having an established player.
Now, of course when Burke made this trade he didn't think it'd be as high as 2nd overall. But 1 for 1, I think for me anyways, I'd honestly rather have the 22 year old Kessel than the 18 year old Hall.
Pronger84
Active member
Theres tons of good lakes espically just north of the Kawarthas. Lake of Bays is a sick place to fish: huge lake trout, small mouth bass, and perch. Plus its only 2 hours away from Toronto.
T
teeds
Guest
The vast expanse of water in Ontario is discussion number one in the international talks in Toronto that is costing taxpayers one billion dollars. And the clean fresh air of the past week, is due to the fact that they haven't sprayed us in preparing for nice air for the elite.
The Chinese, owed SOOOO much money by US and Canada are going to be allowed to walk into Canada in the next two years and complete the takeover. Done deal. Enjoy the next two years, its our last. As we know it.
The Chinese, owed SOOOO much money by US and Canada are going to be allowed to walk into Canada in the next two years and complete the takeover. Done deal. Enjoy the next two years, its our last. As we know it.
Volcanologist
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http://hcsokol.kiev.ua/article_5321.html
Maybe PQ can read this...but apparently Poni understands why he was moved at the deadline and would be interested in coming back to the Leafs.
Burke probably isn't interested, but I wouldn't mind at the right price. He's got size, speed, decent defensive ability, and while he doesn't have the greatest hands, he'll get you in the range of 20-25 a season.
Maybe PQ can read this...but apparently Poni understands why he was moved at the deadline and would be interested in coming back to the Leafs.
Burke probably isn't interested, but I wouldn't mind at the right price. He's got size, speed, decent defensive ability, and while he doesn't have the greatest hands, he'll get you in the range of 20-25 a season.
hockeylover
Well-known member
I definitely recall hearing that Cammalleri didn't want to come to Toronto because he didn't want to spend his offseason in the same city he played in.
It wasn't Kessel OR Cammalleri. I don't see why everyone always wants to make it that.
It wasn't Kessel OR Cammalleri. I don't see why everyone always wants to make it that.
PQ
Leafs & Soccer Moderator
He says that he understands that he was traded because of his impending free agency and that he is grateful to the Leafs for trading him to a Cup Contender rather than just the first bidder. Says LA, Thrashers and Canes were also interested.
Acknowledged that the Leafs will be able to sign him again on July 1st, but when asked if he would consider coming back, said that he is not looking that far ahead. (Interview was taken on May 3rd, so he was just entering the playoffs)
CRL
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you dont want to read translation of that, it is pure show off from Poni, that interview taken shortly after trade. Basically his greatness Poni got rewarded for his hard work by trading him to Pens to get the SC! And he will work his ass off to get one and so on. I thought he is dumb ass but didnt expect this bad, it just confirms that Antro deserved to stay.