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Yup. Because until you learn to evaluate a prospect's worth beyond raw totals (where numbers are FAR more arbitrary than at the professional level) I, and others who pay close attention to the Draft, will continue to point it out.
 
I like Skinner because he went MDHS, but that doesn't mean I'll take him 6th Overall, especially if Connolly is still there.
 
I have to disagree with you on Connolly Jays. I think his talent separates him from your second tier. He is not in the Seguin/Hall top tier but I would put him as 1b. If his hip wasn't a question mark he would be a consensus #3 pick.
 
Well no shit. In that PM you sent asking me who Florida should take (for the purposes of that season-tickets context) I sent you a lengthy explanation outlining Connolly without question, lol. But he's still in that second tier.
 
I did a lot of reading on him and watched some videos after that. The kid has some serious talent.

Taking a guy like Skinner over Connolly would be akin to picking Ru Paul over Megan Fox.
 
I take Connolly at number three, injuries included, every single time. There wouldn't be any doubt about his draft position if it weren't for the injuries.
 
hockeylover said:
I've mentioned him before, but tell me why you guys are opposed to targeting a guy like James Neal again?
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I've said it several times, Kabs to the Stars for Jamie Benn (or James Neal). It's a great deal for both teams. Unlikely it would be a straight up deal - but the parameters are there for a win-win deal.
 
Yeah, to me there's a lot of factors there that would make sense for a deal between the two teams.

PTBNL posted this in his "Who Needs Kaberle?" thread:

25. Minnesota: 138 pts
27. Calgary: 134 pts
28. Tampa Bay: 119 pts
29. New Jersey: 112 pts
29. Dallas: 112 pts
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They need more points from their blueline, they may not want to give James Neal the raise he'll be looking for given how much faith they have in upcoming LW Jamie Benn. We can assume Nieuwy and Burke have a good working relationship. And Burke always mentions that he wants a Top 6 winger, preferably with size.
 
the problem with Kaberle to a team like Dallas is the long term ramifications. Dallas likely has no interest in dealing for 1 year of Kaberle and Kaberle has more or less made it clear he wants to stay on the East Coast. If he has no interest in signing long term i dont see a team like Dallas, who is not a contender making that move
 
Kaberle has more or less made it clear he wants to stay on the East Coast.
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I don't think this is really true. Kaberle's agent told Burke three teams at the deadline, but we aren't sure which teams those are and he's never really said anything other than he didn't want to leave Toronto.
 
hockeylover said:
I don't think this is really true. Kaberle's agent told Burke three teams at the deadline, but we aren't sure which teams those are and he's never really said anything other than he didn't want to leave Toronto.
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Maybe it is maybe it isnt.

What we do know is that he has been very hesitant to leave Toronto and that anytime he has given a list of teams to Burke that primarily East Coast teams have been on said list.

He also has more control of his own fate than people are giving him credit for. If he doesnt like where Burke is dealing him he is a UFA at the end of next year and can sign where he likes.

Burke has to know that he will get a pile more for Kaberle if the team getting him can extend him, and i dotn see a non contender like Dallas or Columbus trading for just 1 year
 
Habsy said:
I have to disagree with you on Connolly Jays. I think his talent separates him from your second tier. He is not in the Seguin/Hall top tier but I would put him as 1b. If his hip wasn't a question mark he would be a consensus #3 pick.
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If Brett Connolly's hip wasn't an issue we'd be talking about this kid right up there with Seguin and Hall. Connolly would probably have scored 50 in a healthy full season, probably 95-105 points. He's more physical than Hall and Seguin combined, he's got a bigger frame than both and he'll do scutt work to score goals. He's got that kind of power sniper game that a guy like Eric Staal has.

But his hip is gonna be severely tested at the next level.
 
What we do know is that he has been very hesitant to leave Toronto and that anytime he has given a list of teams to Burke that primarily East Coast teams have been on said list.
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As I just said, no, we don't know that.

From TSN:

"There wasn't a deal to be made, and that was the end of it," Burke said after the deadline had passed. "We were truthful. We never got a list, but we did explore three avenues that the player's agent asked us to explore as recently as this morning."

He would not name the three teams.

Burke said he generally does not accept lists from players unless they include a minimum of 10 teams, but he made an exception for Kaberle, the last player left on the roster who actually has any playoff experience with the Leafs. Toronto has not made the playoffs in six years, and is suddenly stocked with players who are only in their first and second years with the team.

http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=312290

3 teams, no confirmation on which teams they were, no official list.
 
well...the 2 teams we do know where deals have been made....Boston and Philly....Eastern.....and I've heard numerous reports that Tomas likes the Czech environment that Toronto offers and that he'd wish to stay close to that.

Obviously nothing is certain, but IMO there is enough out there to think that Western teams dotn really appeal to Kaberle.
 
well...the 2 teams we do know where deals have been made....Boston and Philly....Eastern.....and I've heard numerous reports that Tomas likes the Czech environment that Toronto offers and that he'd wish to stay close to that.

Obviously nothing is certain, but IMO there is enough out there to think that Western teams dotn really appeal to Kaberle.
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Sure, but TK refused to waive his NTC for Philly and as far as we know, was never asked about Boston.

We all know he'd prefer to stay in Toronto, but given that he's only suggested three teams I'm not sure we can rule out all Western teams. I'm sure Nieuwendyk would be allowed to see if there'd be interest in him re-signing in Dallas.
 
hockeylover said:
Sure, but TK refused to waive his NTC for Philly and as far as we know, was never asked about Boston.

We all know he'd prefer to stay in Toronto, but given that he's only suggested three teams I'm not sure we can rule out all Western teams. I'm sure Nieuwendyk would be allowed to see if there'd be interest in him re-signing in Dallas.
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Agreed, It's in Burke's favor that Kaberle agree to an extension wherever he go
 
I said earlier that Burke said on the radio today that he had two "more than nibbles" at the deadline. He was talking about right now apparently.

"We've got two inquiries about Tomas from what I would consider interested teams They're more than nibbles. We use fishing terminology in this business. And they were more than nibbles."
 
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