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I can see Phaneuf being the cheerful and loud drunk. Grabo would be the type of drunk that would get up in your face. Kessel I'm not sure, I can see him being an emotional mess when drunk. Kaberle eh, doesnt strike me as the drinking type. Burke would be a kick ass guy to drink with though.
 
Phaneuf is nothing like Kaberle, they're very different players. Kaberle is a soft defencmen who excels at speed and carrying the puck up and setting up the attack. Phaenuf is the kinda guy who will rip someone's head off when they cross the bluleine, and provide a wicked point shot. Kaberle equals Niederymer, Phaneuf equals pronger, nuff said.
 
Phaneuf EQUALS Pronger? Wow. That has to be the homer comparison of the summer so far. If we could only dream.

Pronger, may have been the best player in the NHL this season. At least in the playoffs. Phaneuf... ahh, why bother? Good luck to him.
 
Well, Phaneuf has some talent, no question. But he just does not seem to have the confidence of a Pronger. Heck, cept for Crosby, no one does.
 
At age 22 Phaneuf already had a First All-Star Team selection and Norris Trophy nomination under his belt. It took Pronger under 28 years old to accomplish the same.
 
Yup. People forget how much Pronger struggled early in his career. In fact Hartford was willing to give him up not long after drafting him.

Phaneuf's start to his career is better than a lot of HHOF defensemen.
 
teeds said:
Phaneuf EQUALS Pronger? Wow. That has to be the homer comparison of the summer so far. If we could only dream.

Pronger, may have been the best player in the NHL this season. At least in the playoffs. Phaneuf... ahh, why bother? Good luck to him.
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Yes Phanuef is similar to Pronger: Both are big, both are nasty hitters, both log 25-30mins a night, both can chip in with 40-50 pts, both have a cocky attitude both on/off the ice. Is Phaneuf better then Pronger? No, not yet, he has to work on rounding out his defensive coverage, but that will come with time, remember Phaneuf is only 24 years old.
 
Just to further compare Phaneuf and Pronger

Phaneuf (first 5 seasons): 404gp, 77g, 161a, 238pts, plus 17, 556 PIM

Pronger (first 5 seasons): 362gp, 37g, 103a, 140pts, plus 29, 600 PIM

If your going by offense, Phaneuf is heads and tails above Pronger. Pronger has a better plus/minus mainly because he got a plus 47 in his 5th season, the rest he was a minus 4 out of 5 times. PIM are more or less equal, but give the slight edge to Pronger. Like I said Phaneuf and Pronger are similar style players.
 
JackBurton said:
Yup. People forget how much Pronger struggled early in his career. In fact Hartford was willing to give him up not long after drafting him.

Phaneuf's start to his career is better than a lot of HHOF defensemen.
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Yup. That kind of history is what makes the "oh, well their GM's were willing to trade them away, so Kessel and Phaneuf must be no good" arguments going on in this thread so amusing. All throughout professional sports history, GM's have given up on/traded away promising young players, and then had it come back to bite them in the ass.
 
Phaneuf is going to haunt calgary for years. Sure Phaneuf had 2 shaky seasons, but people are forgetting he's only 24, and hes just starting to grow up, and improve as a player. Calgary gave up on him WAY too soon, and for what spare parts. What they got back was an OK 2nd line centre in Stajan, they got a wishy/washy 20 goal scorer in hagman, a 3rd/4th pairing slightly above average defencmen in white, and an aging 4th liner who doesnt bring much to the table. In return, we got an allstar defencmen, a decent 3rd liner in sjostrom, and a potential stud in Aullie. Yup I'd say Calgary shot themselves in the foot for that deal.
 
Looking at Calgary's situation, they really should have shopped Phaneuf around and traded him for picks/prospects. Calgary is in really bad shape right now in terms of both prospects and the cap situation. And their core is aging.

I thought the big thing was Phaneuf was traded for cap reasons? Calgary can't even afford what White is going to get in salary arbitration and might lose him. They didn't help their cap situation one bit, and they didn't get into the playoffs.
 
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Yup. That kind of history is what makes the "oh, well their GM's were willing to trade them away, so Kessel and Phaneuf must be no good" arguments going on in this thread so amusing. All throughout professional sports history, GM's have given up on/traded away promising young players, and then had it come back to bite them in the ass.
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Exactly. It has always happened in sports and always will.

The "Why Would Calgary Trade Phaneuf" questions are silly. Teams make bad trades all the time. Based on what we've heard, Sutter didn't even bother shopping Phaneuf around much and could have gotten a better package.

http://slam.canoe.ca/Slam/Hockey/NHL/Calgary/2010/02/08/12788506-qmi.html
 
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He has his eye on something. You dont just let a guy of his calibre pass by without having a plan in place
 
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