Leaf Rumours
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JaysCyYoung
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Trying to get Twitter hits I would assume.
If you watch it online, he said that Savard could be used to get a defenseman, and that it could be a starting point in potental Kaberle talks.
But Dreger is full of shit most of the time...remember, he was a Sportsnet guy for a long while.
If it's not Bobby Mac, I don't give a shit.
But Dreger is full of shit most of the time...remember, he was a Sportsnet guy for a long while.
If it's not Bobby Mac, I don't give a shit.
kyle16
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Now that Nabby is gone, Thomas is looking more realistic for the Sharks.
hockeylover
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Dreger's been really reliable via Twitter lately. Bobby Mac often retweets his scoops. Don't really see it though and he makes it pretty clear that it's just speculation on his part.
Hoss
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yeah when I saw that Boston got Horton for a defenseman I thought they need to make a move to shore up the blue line and to get rid of the depth at the forward spot.
They traded the 15th pick... so you can't ask for that, but would you guys have done Lucic and the 15th for Kaberle??
There is no more prototypical Burke player... I would then trade Komi to the sharks for something
All hypothetical though.
They traded the 15th pick... so you can't ask for that, but would you guys have done Lucic and the 15th for Kaberle??
There is no more prototypical Burke player... I would then trade Komi to the sharks for something
All hypothetical though.
My bad. 20th pick sounds better but not good enough. The chances of the pick turning into someone who can help us in near future are not high enough for me to give him up.
I understand that the pens would take grabs off our salary chart which sounds good but I just don't see why we need that room right now. I don't want kovo at 10 mil, neither do I want marl at 6 mil. Unless Burke has a great trade in mind I would much rather resign kuly to a short term contract to see what he is made off before further commitment. If he refuses let him go to the KHL. Like I said can't let players bully the team.
hockeylover
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I don't think anyone said the Penguins would be taking Grabs in the deal. They wouldn't want a 2.9 million dollar center I wouldn't think. If they'll give you a 20th for a player who's asking for more than you want to give him, then I think you take it.
Maybe you can give the 20th and Grabs to another team and move up a bit more.
Maybe you can give the 20th and Grabs to another team and move up a bit more.
Yeah I don't see the Pens taking on a center unless they get rid of one of Sid, Geno, Staal or Talbot and I don't see them trading any of them as of right now.
Volcanologist
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Assuming a talent like Ryan or Semin can't be had in a Kabs trade, Savard isn't the worst idea ever. The only worrisome aspect is the concussion thing.
The B's with Seguin on the way would I'm sure like to have Bergeron and Krejci carry the load at centre while adding a significant offensive weapon on the blueline while they're at it. Kaberle-Chara would be a formidable top pairing.
Savard's a bit too old for us though. Great player but the rest of the core Burke is building is waaaaay younger.
that's the only scenario I'd personally be willing to give him up for a 20th pick. If I have a trade agreed upon which makes this team better now and in the future then sure. If not, i'd let kuly go. Much like hudler I am fairly sure guys this young who have experienced the NHL will come back eventually.
Also I really think if Burke makes it clear that it's the Leafs or
KHL for kuly, he'll resign.
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hockeylover
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Or maybe you even use that 20th to score an even better player in the Kaberle deal from a team that would rather the pick than Kulemin at whatever he's asking.
Savard is old + has concussions + could have come here but chose to stay in Boston. There just has to be a better deal out there for the Leafs. If not, resign him to a home town discount.
Wow... we really have different opinions on what Kulemin is worth.
In fact I wouldn't even want the Habs to sign him without giving up anything for $3.5mil. If he was signed at like $1.5mil then I could see him having some value but if he's asking for $3.5 as reported then he has very little value.
Hoss
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Kuly to the Pens for the 20th overall...
Kaberle, Mitchell and the 20th overall to Anaheim for Bobby R.
Grabs for a low second...
Trade the second and your third for Sharp
Sign Kovulchuk for 8.5
Kovy Bozak Kessel
Ryan Kadri Sharp
Stalberg Hanson Sjostrom
Caputi XXX Orr
Beauch Phaneuf
Komi Gunnar
Schenn XXX
Kaberle, Mitchell and the 20th overall to Anaheim for Bobby R.
Grabs for a low second...
Trade the second and your third for Sharp
Sign Kovulchuk for 8.5
Kovy Bozak Kessel
Ryan Kadri Sharp
Stalberg Hanson Sjostrom
Caputi XXX Orr
Beauch Phaneuf
Komi Gunnar
Schenn XXX
I never said he was worth $3.5. His production simply does not warrant that amount. However, we all saw a player who improved throughout the season to a point that he made believers out of non-believers such as myself. I personally was as excited to see him out there as I was Kessel, Bozak, and DblDion every time he hit the ice.
That is why I don't want to just give him up for a total maybe in the 20th pick without a back up deal. To me, he either resigns as a young player who is far from a go to guy but has the potential to be that, or you'll let him go to the KHL for a season or two and hope he comes back at some point.
For the record I'd be willing to sign him for as much as 2.5 mil. I just really liked what I saw towards the end of the season.
MyNameIsJonas
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Grabs for a 2nd is the only non dillusional idea you have
Anaheim and Chcaigo laugh at those trade offers then hang up the phone and question the sanity of the league.
Hoss
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Why??? Chicago is ass strapped with the cap... asking for a first and a prospect for Byuf is a complete joke and no one will give that. What GM is going to want to help out the stanley cup champs?? They can't take on salary so offer them two picks.
Anaheim just lost their hall of fame puck moving defenseman and really don't have much else on the back end comparable to Kaberle. (and no I don't compare Visnovsky to Kaberle) The reports are that Ryan doesn't want more than Getz and PErry, then why the hell is it taking so long, and why are they not even talking to Ryan (again according to that article)
And maybe Kovy takes 8.5 to be a star in the biggest hockey market with probably the best russian community outside of Moscow.
These are all ideas, that have some possibility.
Anaheim just lost their hall of fame puck moving defenseman and really don't have much else on the back end comparable to Kaberle. (and no I don't compare Visnovsky to Kaberle) The reports are that Ryan doesn't want more than Getz and PErry, then why the hell is it taking so long, and why are they not even talking to Ryan (again according to that article)
And maybe Kovy takes 8.5 to be a star in the biggest hockey market with probably the best russian community outside of Moscow.
These are all ideas, that have some possibility.
hockeylover
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Yeah, Chicago won't do that for Sharp. It's already been said by Dreger and Co that they're not wanting to move Sharp at all if it can be avoided.
I still think what they're asking for Buff is ridiculous though.
I still think what they're asking for Buff is ridiculous though.
MyNameIsJonas
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1) Some team offers more than a 2 and 3 for Sharp if he is available. Which there is no guarantee that there is. Buff/Steeg/Sopel/Ladd all go before him.
2) Yes it is insane for Anaheim to deal one of the best young forwards in the game for a 31 yeard old dman with 1 year left on his contract. If they want a puck mover, make an offer to Gonchar or Martin. Any Ryan deal with Toronto starts with Kaberle and Schenn.....then grows.
2) Sure on the Kovalchuk thing. Except for the fact that Burke has gone out and disteanced himself from him and the extreme long term type of deals that he's going to command, and if you think there is no team that will pony up 10 years for Ilya then you are wrong. There is always someone.