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I'm actually going to go ahead with "shitty" as the proper adjective to describe that proposed Ranger deal. A 35-40 point forward and a defensive defenseman in exchange for Kaberle? How does that address our needs, or make us a better team in any way?
 
Yeah that Ranger deal is no good. Not for where we are and what we are after.

As for Savard, I'm a little late in on the discussion here. But I agree with Dumar. Savard could easily bounce back from his concussions, not get another one, and be a fantastic addition, especially for that cap hit. But, considering where we are in this rebuild, I think it'd be a mistake to trade our best asset for somewhat of a question mark. We are starting from a blank canvass here, and we don't want to make a mistake that ruins the picture for years to come.
 
It's now almost 7 am in LA Time ... hey NHL GMs, wake up and make some traders already! :)

Seriously, with all kinds of emails flying around, we should know Burke has 1 thing in mind, and that's a youngish top 6 forward, preferrably a winger.

Rumors that includes a 3rd liner, a defenseman prospect, etc ... I wouldn't even waste my time with.

Now Burke might consider say, a top 10 pick instead. But make no mistake his priority is a top 6 winger ... and that doesn't have to happen today. It can happen anytime in the next month.

I do believe Burke will try to get a 2nd rounder before the draft tonight ... possibly say, a Grabs for 2nd rounder trade or something like that.
 
With 6 teams putting forth offers (2 expected today that are uping their anti) I have a feeling today is Kaberle's last day as a Leaf.
 
But what's the rush? If Burke doesn't want picks in return, then the significance of today is only that it marks the beginning of the window when Kabby's NTC is lifted.

Unless there's a good enough offer on the table, Burke is in no rush to trade his biggest chip. And there hasn't been a good enough offer on the table. Burke said "so far it's not even close, but obviously all that can change with a phone call."

By the same token, SJ, Anaheim, Dallas etc are in no rush to complete the trade today neither, if it doesn't involve draft picks. July 1 might be a date that they have to decide which way they'd go ... but not today.
 
ForeverTML said:
It sure is going to suck watching Boston pick Seguin.
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It is, but it's not like we gave them the puck for nothing.

Draft is all sexy and stuff, but realistically, if Seguin even develop into a 36G scorer in 3 years Boston should be very happy about him.

And we already have Kessel in our lineup.
 
If the deal does not involve picks IMO it makes the most sense for the Leafs and interested parties to wait. Specifically until the Gonchar dust settles.
 
Now is the time to trade Kabby if you are going to do it. Burke is just posturing. The whole atmosphere around the draft, along with teams gearing up for July 1, this is when the best offers will be made.

No sense in waiting.

Kaberle is either dealt in the next week or he stays. And the most likely time for the deal is the next 2 days.
 
number17 said:
But what's the rush? If Burke doesn't want picks in return, then the significance of today is only that it marks the beginning of the window when Kabby's NTC is lifted.

Unless there's a good enough offer on the table, Burke is in no rush to trade his biggest chip. And there hasn't been a good enough offer on the table. Burke said "so far it's not even close, but obviously all that can change with a phone call."

By the same token, SJ, Anaheim, Dallas etc are in no rush to complete the trade today neither, if it doesn't involve draft picks. July 1 might be a date that they have to decide which way they'd go ... but not today.
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I know there is no rush but Burke has stated numerous time what he wants in return and its just a gut feeling someone is going to offer something he likes.

He's repeated it so many times teams know by now that offering a pick as the centre piece of a deal is a waste of time so I have a feeling someone will come with an offer.

Just a hunch, nothing more
 
What would concern me, is that i have heard nothing in regards of Kaberle signing an extension anywhere if/when he is dealt. And if true he isnt keen on the West coast then it would appear many teams would knowingly be dealing for 1 year of Tomas. Which should effect the return.
 
On July 1 the interest shifts from the draft and trades to the free assets.

Now is the best time to trade. GM's are all in the same room. There is lots of talking. Everyone is trying to get their team settled so they know what to do on July 1. Plus the atmosphere is conducive to wheeling and dealing.

Its why so many trades are made every year on draft day and not July 5th.
 
Artnes said:
I know there is no rush but Burke has stated numerous time what he wants in return and its just a gut feeling someone is going to offer something he likes.
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Plus some teams might be counting on aquiring Kaberle to dictate other moves they intend on making in relation to the draft. Not every team would be in this situation, but it may be a factor for some and would add some urgency.
 
leafman101 said:
Its going to suck more for them watching Kessel play for the Leafs the next decade.
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Yep.

Even last season, you think Ciraelli didn't take any heat from the media for trading Kessel when his team struggled to score all season??


As for Kabby trade, I really don't think today or the next few days is any sort of a deadline. I mean, think about this, Burke was patient enough when he did the Kessel trade (it was completed in late September, at the tail end of training camp), he was patient enough in trading for Phaneuf (inquired about Phaneuf early in the season, waited till end of January to complete the trade). He had a chance to trade for JSG early in the season, but was patient enough to make Anaheim take Vesa in return.

Burke has a full month of window to trade Kabby. I don't think it'll happen until after July 1
 
MyNameIsJonas said:
What would concern me, is that i have heard nothing in regards of Kaberle signing an extension anywhere if/when he is dealt. And if true he isnt keen on the West coast then it would appear many teams would knowingly be dealing for 1 year of Tomas. Which should effect the return.
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I am sure that during the conversations the extension topic is being brought up. Just because Berger doesn't write an article or Dreger doesn't tweet it doesn't mean its not going to happen.

Burke knows without an extension Kabs value will drop considerably so I am sure it's being discussed with his agent as offers are being mulled over
 
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