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leafman101 said:
No it isn't.

Hell, Seguin may never be as good as Kessel is now, nevermind Kessel's top end.
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The professionals disagree.

Seguin may end up being a lesser player, but his top end is certainly higher.

Of course that ignores the other assets given up as part of the deal.
 
People said the same thing with McCabe when he signed that $5.75M contract...and then Redden/Jovonovski got more and sucked. And McCabe was unfairly dumped.
 
Yeah, I think everyone here agreed when we signed Komi that the price was too much for limited offense. But yeah, if every year we have the Komis and Volchenkovs of the world going for big bucks, by the end of his deal it might just be good value compared to the market.
 
Various Leaf fans have mentioned the immediate dividends paid by having Kessel in the lineup instead of waiting for the draft picks to develop. I was simply pointing out that the initial team result with him instead of the picks.

As for discussing this today, don't you agree that it makes some sense considering this is the day when the real cost of the deal begins to come to roost?
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Because Seguin is going to put a Bruins shirt on his head? No. The real cost of the deal will come to roost when we see both players on the ice.

And certainly not in the Leaf Rumours thread. That's the last time I'll respond to you in this thread about this - I'm staying on topic.
 
should we make a draft day specific thread or are we trying to keep everything in here or in the other 5 threads?

tsnjamesduthie

Atlanta is shopping #8 pick. (Dudley has been GM in 6 drafts-including this) – has traded a first round pick 5 times (#24 to Chi this week)
 
People said the same thing with McCabe when he signed that $5.75M contract...and then Redden/Jovonovski got more and sucked. And McCabe was unfairly dumped.
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McCabe brought great offense and I think it's worth paying for great offense. And where it starts to get dicey is when you try to turn intangibles into dollars. GMs get crazy. It sucks for the Sens that they're losing Volchenkov but at that money they're probably lucky they're not overpaying.
 
hockeylover said:
Because Seguin is going to put a Bruins shirt on his head? No. The real cost of the deal will come to roost when we see both players on the ice.

And certainly not in the Leaf Rumours thread. That's the last time I'll respond to you in this thread about this - I'm staying on topic.
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No, the real cost of the deal will come to roost when we see ALL FOUR players on the ice. A fact that Leaf fans seem most willing to ignore.
 
No, the real cost of the deal will come to roost when we see ALL FOUR players on the ice. A fact that Leaf fans seem most willing to ignore.
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Cool. So you agree with me. In this thread, is neither the time or the place. :) This will only result in an extra 6-10 pages of fighting on a day where this thread is probably going to be filled with Leaf buzz.
 
SENSible said:
One dimensional 40-50 goals scorer.

What do you think?
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I think he'll ultimately be a better passer than people give him credit for. he definitely had a pile of sweet feeds this past season that went wanting.

You don't really think Tyler Seguin plays any defence, do you...? What dimension do you think he has other than offence?
 
1) Seguin's top end is higher than Kessel's
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Seguin has the opportunity to be a better two-way player than Kessel does but this statement is debateable.

Page 34 from Future Greats and Heartbreaks:

Kessel would have been the No. 2 pick behind Sidney Crosby in last year's draft if he'd been eligible. With a birthday in October '87, he only missed being eligible by a few weeks... It has been reported that some scouts, maybe as many as half the scouting staffs of NHL teams, favoured Kessel over Sidney Crosby last year. This isn't just pie-in-the-sky stuff, but rather a question that scouts had to sort out all season long... It's hard to find many scouts who'll 'fess up to a previously held opinion that Kessel was a prospect even close to Crosby, never mind ahead of him.
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2) You also lost the cap flexibility that having Seguin in your line up over Kessel would give you.
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Top five draft picks end up making close to $3-4 million bucks with bonuses factored into the equation, which counts against the cap. The savings are negligible and the Leafs have a plethora of cap space to begin with. Not an issue.

3) You also gave up the 32nd pick in this years draft.
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So the Leafs gave up a thirty to forty percent opportunity at drafting a player that will see any NHL action. God forbid.

4) You also gave up the top 10 pick next year.
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In the weakest draft class since 1996.

Sorry, but that deal sucks balls.
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I know Kessel burned the Sens repeatedly last season but still, no need to be so bitter. There are only thirteen players in the NHL that have scored thirty goals consecutively over the past two seasons. Kessel is one of them.
 
Metalleaf said:
should we make a draft day specific thread or are we trying to keep everything in here or in the other 5 threads?

tsnjamesduthie

Atlanta is shopping #8 pick. (Dudley has been GM in 6 drafts-including this) – has traded a first round pick 5 times (#24 to Chi this week)
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there's a draft day thread stickied on top of the main page
 
Ok this thread is starting to go way off topic. We've made our points now let him banter and just ignore it.

Any twitter updates HL?
 
tsnjamesduthie

Hall and Seguin-classic last nite. After our interview, they took turns walking up on draft stage, shaking hands,pretending one was Bettman
 
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