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On a bad team Kulemin is a 1st liner (aka leafs), on a good team he's at best a 2nd liner, on a great team he's nothing more then a 3rd liner. Trade him to a team like the ducks, he's likely on the 2nd line, at best will get 20 goals. I'd easily trade Kabs and Kulemin for Perry.
 
LeafOfFaith said:
You do know I said ok buddy to him, not you? I replied to your post before that.
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Yeah I know. I was joking haha

And there's nothing at all to indicate that Perry would get anywhere near that total.
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LOL, but there is for kulemin ? It works both ways man. You're trying to tell me that a guy who got first line minutes by default and couldnt even put up 20 goals is a sure bet for 25 next year ? That is a ridiculous statement to make right now.

You dont back any of it up except for making a bunch of excuses for why he couldnt do it this year. I can play that game too with Perry. My point was if you can say Kulemin is a 25 goal scorer out of the blue then I can say the same about Perry. At least Perry has a very good track record to back up what im saying. You got nothing dude.

I hope you're right though about Kulemin, but until he actually does go out and score 20 (forget 25 at this point) goals I think you're just theory crafting.
 
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Yeah I know. I was joking haha



LOL, but there is for kulemin ? It works both ways man. You're trying to tell me that a guy who got first line minutes by default and couldnt even put up 20 goals is a sure bet for 25 next year ? That is a ridiculous statement to make right now.

You dont back any of it up except for making a bunch of excuses for why he couldnt do it this year. I can play that game too with Perry. My point was if you can say Kulemin is a 25 goal scorer out of the blue then I can say the same about Perry. At least Perry has a very good track record to back up what im saying. You got nothing dude.

I hope you're right though about Kulemin, but until he actually does go out and score 20( (forget 25 at this point) goals I think you're just theory crafting.
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Kulemin's only played two years in the league, and really only seemed to settle in late last year. I can only tell you that with a stable team (which he'll have this year) and a top 6 role (which if he re-signs, he'll have), I've seen enough to be able to say that 25 would be a reasonable target.

Perry has played 5 years in the league now, with a good, stable team like Anaheim, with guys like Getzlaf and Selanne, and the best he's managed is 32, even dipping back to 27 last year. He's a sure bet for 75 points, which is what makes him better than Kulemin, but I don't think he is going to offer much more than he already has.

Given all that, if we're giving them Kaberle, who may well get 70 points himself, adding in Kulemin too wouldn't be smart, imo.
 
Unfortunately, I do believe there's a very real risk that Burke undervalues Kulemin, overvalues his old buddy Perry, would be happy to rid himself of the contract dispute, and may well make the deal.

I think that rumor has something to it, I just really hope Kulemin isn't part of it.
 
Unfortunately, I do believe there's a very real risk that Burke undervalues Kulemin, overvalues his old buddy Perry, would be happy to rid himself of the contract dispute, and may well make the deal.

I think that rumor has something to it, I just really hope Kulemin isn't part of it.
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Sending them Kaberle and Kulemin for Perry wouldn't be OVERVALUING Perry at all. I'd do it in a SECOND. I thought you were Mr. Good Canadian Boys, what happened?
 
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Source says Marc Savard has targeted Toronto/ Ottawa as possible destinations for a potential deal in which he'd drop his no move clause
 
I have no idea. I'd move Kaberle for him personally. We'd be dramatically better, dramatically. And still have a ton of room. But I've voiced my opinion on this before.
 
That's excellent...only having 2 potential suitors, one of which is already spending 11 million on it's top 2 centres definitely would have to drop the asking price for Savard.

That + the concussion issues should allow Burkie to get it done without including Kaberle.

Beauch + ?????
 
LeafOfFaith said:
Unfortunately, I do believe there's a very real risk that Burke undervalues Kulemin, overvalues his old buddy Perry, would be happy to rid himself of the contract dispute, and may well make the deal.

I think that rumor has something to it, I just really hope Kulemin isn't part of it.
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I would do it in a second. Getting a young Gold Medal winner like Perry with rest of the young core Burke is assembling would be worth it. I like Kulemin, but would gladly take Corey Perry for him.
 
That's excellent...only having 2 potential suitors, one of which is already spending 11 million on it's top 2 centres definitely would have to drop the asking price for Savard.

That + the concussion issues should allow Burkie to get it done without including Kaberle.

Beauch + ?????
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I don't get why Boston does this. "Darn, we feel so bad for picking Seguin. Here's Marc Savard, we'll try to make sure it's not a good pick next year."
 
As I've said, I like Marc Savard and would like to have him. But he's an older player with a massive contract (and concussion issues) that apparantly wants out of Boston, and that Boston now wants to get rid of. So, I don't see why we should have to give up Tomas Kaberle for the privilege of solving Boston's problem for them.
 
LeafGm said:
As I've said, I like Marc Savard and would like to have him. But he's an older player with a massive contract (and concussion issues) that apparantly wants out of Boston, and that Boston now wants to get rid of. So, I don't see why we should have to give up Tomas Kaberle for the privilege of solving Boston's problem for them.
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Bostons not in a point of barganing with the leafs. Savard is aging, has a bad contract, and concussion problems. Boston also has too many people at centres right now as is, and they need to unload one of them, that one is Savard. Boston needs to get rid of him more, moreso then what the leafs need savard. Leafs should offer: Grabo, Beauch, and a 2nd. Boston should accept the offer, if they dont like it, they can look elsewhere.
 
Savard's contract is not that bad for what he brings. Sure the length of 7 years sucks but the cap hit of $4M is a joke for his capabilities. As for the concussion issues, you obviously have to clear him medically.
 
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