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LeafOfFaith said:
Because 32 year olds whose production has already been declining usually improve after they've gone through a poor, injury-riddled year?
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Don't be silly. Players who are injured see setbacks in production every year.

Him bouncing back is way more likely than him declining at a retardedly high rate.
 
leafman101 said:
Don't be silly. Players who are injured see setbacks in production every year.

Him bouncing back is way more likely than him declining at a retardedly high rate.
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What's the high rate of decline?

I allowed him having the exact same season as last year, i.e., no decline.
 
# TSNBobMcKenzie

Creating cap space is the most valuable asset BOS would get back in a Savard deal. And that is not to be minimized. Ask teams up against cap.

# Bob McKenzie TSNBobMcKenzie

"Soft" deal doesn't involve significant roster players or high end draft pick(s). If BOS moves Savard, with that contract, return not high.
 
All I have to say is that if Burke can get Savard for at worst Beauchemin, he'd be stupid not to. Your current centers, while talented, are inexperienced and a guy like Savard would not only put up points and help Kessel but would take the heat off of the kid centers in media mad TO.
 
I'm really confused by all of this.. Savard makes 4.2 million and he would undoubtedly return to 70+ point form with Kessel.. Why does he have no trade value again? If all these reports are true, I hope to god burkie is salivating right now.
 
axlsalinger said:
As that link said about a soft deal, if you're not going to give them a Kaberle or a Schenn, capspace is the most valuable asset they can get. So please explain to me why they would trade a $4M player in a deal like that, for $3.5M + $2.9M of total garbage.
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Like I said, they wouldn't, because they're looking for cap space.

The only bring spot is that those two are off the books in two years, much like the Giguere (1 yr) for Blake (2 yrs) deal.

Again, I don't want him unless I can rid myself of some problems too. I just don't see him as this uber valuable commodity that you all are drooling over.

I don't want to settle for over the hill players whose best days are behind them. I want guys in the Phaneuf, Kessel mold, who haven't hit their prime and will be around for another 10 years.
 
leafman101 said:
No you don't. You said it was more likely he'd decline even further than rebound.
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I did say that, but you're disregarding a couple of posts. I said I think he could repeat what he provided for the next year or two, but he's going to be declining, not improving very soon.
 
LoF, you lambasted zeke for his Giguere fetish yet you charge at this windmill? If Savard can be had for a pittance you'd be very, very stupid not to pick him up. Very.
 
LeafOfFaith said:
I did say that, but you're disregarding a couple of posts. I said I think he could repeat what he provided for the next year or two, but he's going to be declining, not improving very soon.
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And I think you're very wrong.

He'll rebound if he's healthy.

Don't get me wrong. I'd rather have a 22 year old Savard. But those guys aren't easy to find. Hell 32 year old "Savards" aren't easy to find.
 
Oh, and let's all hope that Spezza doesn't get traded.. becasue you can be sure Chia would rather send Savard to Ottawa than Toronto. That actually could be the hold-up right now since Spezza has to be traded before July 1st or they're keeping him.
 
Habsy said:
All I have to say is that if Burke can get Savard for at worst Beauchemin, he'd be stupid not to. Your current centers, while talented, are inexperienced and a guy like Savard would not only put up points and help Kessel but would take the heat off of the kid centers in media mad TO.
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Last year, in an incomplete rookie season, Bozak pretty much matched Savard's output.

Why in the world would I want to pay $4M and take on a 7 year deal just to push Bozak down a notch and push Kadri to the third line or to the wing?

I just don't think it's a wise move on any level.
 
Once again, why exactly would the Bruins give the Leafs a player who will drastically hurt their 1st round draft pick next season and put them into the battle for a playoff spot?
 
Savard has at least 4 good years left in him. After that a buyout is a joke, it's less than a mil. If he gets injured again and retires you lose nothing really. If he is out long-term you still have your kids and the insurance pays his salary and your cap hit is removed while he is out.

I really struggle to see how this is a losing proposition for the Leafs. Hell if I could unload Gomez I would take Savard in a heartbeat.
 
LeafOfFaith said:
Last year, in an incomplete rookie season, Bozak pretty much matched Savard's output.

Why in the world would I want to pay $4M and take on a 7 year deal just to push Bozak down a notch and push Kadri to the third line or to the wing?

I just don't think it's a wise move on any level.
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Please tell me you aren't implying Bozak = Savard.
 
SENSible said:
Once again, why exactly would the Bruins give the Leafs a player who will drastically hurt their 1st round draft pick next season and put them into the battle for a playoff spot?
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2011 is a very shit draft crop. Worst in decades.
 
If the Bruins are forced to make a "soft trade" and they have to choose between Ottawa and Toronto, why would they help the team that hurts their draft position next year?
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Has Ottawa shown any interest in bringing in another centre?

I mean, they already have Giggles, JB, & The Next Vanek who will all cost somewhere around 13-14 million in total. With only 10 million remaining in cap and a very large chunk of that likely to be going to the aforementioned break out player of 2010 as well as Volchenkov (or Sutton), I simply don't see why Ottawa would take a chance on Savard.

Of that 10, Vtrain would cost minimum 4.25, and Regin is probably going to come in somewhere around 2.25. That's 6.5 of your 10....no room to take on 4 for another centre. Even if Sutton replaces VTrain, you'll still only have about 5 million left to fill 3 roster spots (and maintain the cap cushion that all teams operate with).....it's just not feasible.
 
Preston_Mizzi said:
Oh, and let's all hope that Spezza doesn't get traded.. becasue you can be sure Chia would rather send Savard to Ottawa than Toronto. That actually could be the hold-up right now since Spezza has to be traded before July 1st or they're keeping him.
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Chia would far rather send him to Ottawa, but he'll be playing WITH Spezza.

The Sens have the peices to easily match a Leafs offer without hurting the Bruins top draft pick next season.
 
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