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Leaf Rumours

Man, you guys wasted a lot of time debating with Sens fans whether the Savard rumor existed or not, and unfortunately, I read through all of it.

First thing's first - Habsy, you were most definitely wrong.

Sources told Sportsnet Saturday that Savard waived his no-movement clause and gave the Bruins permission to trade him to two teams, the Leafs or Ottawa Senators. After July 1, the clause in Savard's contract increases to five teams.
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http://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/2010/06/27/leafs_bruins_trade_talk/

Next, just so Teeds can go to bed, I will say that I'll take a leak on any rumor from hockeyleaks. Bullshit beyond bullshit. We should give up two promising young forwards for Savard and his mega deal??? Too funny, I won't even dignify it by taking it seriously.

I have no doubt Chia-head is asking for that, but no way Burke is stupid enough to stack Boston's team with all the great young prospects that shoulda been Leafs by making a stupid deal to add to their total with Rask, Seguin, Knight (whoever he is), and the 2011 1st already in the fold. **** that. Burke is in the process of telling him, yo numbnuts, now that you've got Savard to waive the NTC and we are the only team that will accommodate you, take it or leave it.

This is a salary dump people. I'll stick to my guns that no A level prospect like Kulemin is going the other way. Even Stalberg is just too good potentially to give up.

Here's the bag of goodies that Chia will be able to select from - Grabo, Caputi, Paradis, Stefanovich, Blacker, and, although I really doubt it, maybe Gunnar. I still venture to guess it'll be something like Grabs, Caputi and a 4th. Maybe we take back some more salary from Boston.

But it won't be - it can't be - a trade involving our promising young players. It's our non-essential fluff.
 
Ryder is an interesting case....

In a contract year, he'd likely get to play with Bozak (so a quality centre who can create chances for him) and is more than capable of 25-30 goals of badly needed offence. He obviously walks for cap relief at the end of the year, but if we're looking at a short term 2nd line forward, and it helps bring the asking price of Savard even further down than it currently is....yeah, I'd have a hard time not taking him.

I like Gunner and all, but like I mentioned earlier in the thread, he's replaceable, especially considering the fact that he's 6th on our depth chart when everyone is healthy.

Sign MVR for a song and let MVR scrap it out with Aulie, Mikus, Holzer, etc at camp for the # 6 spot. With the 5 guys we have ahead of them, we only really need a #6 to play 10-11 minutes a night. Phaneuf, Kaberle, & Beauch are all capable of playing 22-25 no sweat and both Schenn & Komi are more than capable of playing 19-21 no problem.

Forward lines would look like this roughly

Kulemin-Savard-Kessel
Kadri-Bozak-Ryder
Stalberg - XXXXX - Sjostrom
Orr - Hanson - Brown

We would still have roughly 6 million in cap space if we moved Grabo with no contract coming back, and sent Finger to the AHL.
 
The 5 team thing will turn out to be a lark imo.

He's already named 2, and if the other 3 are as rumoured (by Garrioch...) there is still really only one legit destination in the bunch.
 
Honestly people its coming down to two teams: Sens and Leafs. The sens arent going to overpay for Savard just to use him as a #2 guy. The leafs are the better choice: His kids live in the GTA, he'd get top line mins here, he'd be reunited with Kessel, etc. Burke will take Savard for Grabo, Stevanchoich and a 2nd, for Savard.
 
JaysCyYoung said:
Okay seriously, **** you all. I spend the entire day helping my father's business move all of his stuff out of his old office into a truck and back and the rumour thread is like 25 pages larger. And I feel compelled to read every post to see what's been happening. You bastards.
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Happens to me all the time. I also feel the need to reply to posts while I read them rather than to read the entire thread then reply. I end up posting a lot of stuff that has already been said. I also end up making like 5 consecutive posts in a thread.
 
Metalleaf said:
negotiations would begin and end with Subban, so yeah I don't see it happening.
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As much as I think Kaberle would make the Habs better next year and if he signs an extension he's make them better for a couple years I just wouldn't give up Subban for him. Subban's potential is huge... hopefully he reaches that potential.
 
LeafGm said:
Screw that. If we're taking Ryder off their hands as well, then Boston's going to be the one throwing some nice assets into the deal, not Toronto.
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They would be giving you Savard already... for a pile of garbage. That's the reward for taking Ryder off their hands.
 
I wouldn't trade Subban for Kaberle if I was the Habs either. Kid could really be something. I think he already is something, the way he stepped in without a moments hesitation.
 
LOF, you crack me up. Now I almost want to trade K and S for Savard, so that you wake up.

Burke loves to spend and PAY. He may trade those two guys, because he feels he is getting the best guy back. Its just the way he thinks.

And of course, I get the reaction I am craving from you.

You see, the five on five NHL doesn't really entertain me, I vicariously need it from you.
 
I really hope Gunnarson is not moved. To me there are three kids that Burke should not move. Bozak Stalberg and Gunnarson. He has to be happy with what he saw last year and should NOT give up those guys.
 
LeafOfFaith said:
Man, you guys wasted a lot of time debating with Sens fans whether the Savard rumor existed or not, and unfortunately, I read through all of it.

First thing's first - Habsy, you were most definitely wrong.



http://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/2010/06/27/leafs_bruins_trade_talk/

Next, just so Teeds can go to bed, I will say that I'll take a leak on any rumor from hockeyleaks. Bullshit beyond bullshit. We should give up two promising young forwards for Savard and his mega deal??? Too funny, I won't even dignify it by taking it seriously.

I have no doubt Chia-head is asking for that, but no way Burke is stupid enough to stack Boston's team with all the great young prospects that shoulda been Leafs by making a stupid deal to add to their total with Rask, Seguin, Knight (whoever he is), and the 2011 1st already in the fold. **** that. Burke is in the process of telling him, yo numbnuts, now that you've got Savard to waive the NTC and we are the only team that will accommodate you, take it or leave it.

This is a salary dump people. I'll stick to my guns that no A level prospect like Kulemin is going the other way. Even Stalberg is just too good potentially to give up.

Here's the bag of goodies that Chia will be able to select from - Grabo, Caputi, Paradis, Stefanovich, Blacker, and, although I really doubt it, maybe Gunnar. I still venture to guess it'll be something like Grabs, Caputi and a 4th. Maybe we take back some more salary from Boston.

But it won't be - it can't be - a trade involving our promising young players. It's our non-essential fluff.
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I'll believe Boston media over Sportsnet. You keep holding Kypreos' jock.
 
If i'm Boston i need Stalberg or Gunnarson in a soft deal. I probably even ask for both.

I would settle with Gunnarson, Caputi and a 3rd in 2011
 
Now, as for Savard, and the growing speculation that he’ll be traded, the 33-year-old pivot has an interesting menu of trade exceptions built into his new seven-year “no-trade’’ contract. He cannot be traded prior to the upcoming 2010-11 season. However, the Bruins gain more trade flexibility with his contract as the years go by.

To wit:

■In 2011-12 — Savard can be dealt to Toronto, Ottawa, Montreal, Philadelphia and/or Chicago.

■In 2012-13 — The previous five clubs remain in play, along with Florida, Tampa, New York Rangers, Washington and/or Pittsburgh.

■In 2013-14 — Can be traded to any club in the Eastern Conference.

■In 2014-15 — Can be traded to any NHL club.
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http://www.boston.com/sports/hockey.../06/26/no_need_for_second_guessing/?page=full

Kevin Dupont is about as reliable as it comes where the Bruin's are concerned.
 
In the toronto star today...

http://www.thestar.com/sports/hocke...ady-to-deal-and-has-marc-savard-in-his-sights

Leaf Notes: The Maple Leafs have issued qualifying offers to restricted free agents Nikolai Kulemin and Christian Hanson, retaining a right to compensation should another team try to sign them after July 1.

However they still have not tendered an offer to John Mitchell, who was injured for a good chunk of last season.

They have until 5 pm Monday to offer him a contract—a 10 per cent raise on his $500,000 salary—or he will become an unrestricted free agent on July 1.
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I thought they did send him a qualifying offer....
 
Mitchell at 550 000 is a good deal to throw into a team that needs a low salary.

A signed Kulemin @ 2.9 million plus Mitchell at 550 000 plus a 3rd round pick for Savard
 
Savard is not the type of player the Leafs were targeting this offseason but if he can be had for cheap it'll hard for Burke to resist. My issue is, even assuming we move Grabovski that leaves one of Bozak or Kadri on the 3rd line which to me is not a good long term arrangment. Unless of course the try to convert Kadri to a winger, which I'm not sure I'm a fan of.

Assuming we can get a good centre prospect in the next year or two, does that open up the door to something like:

Kaberle + Boazak + (something small) for Ryan or ?

If I were Ducks I would look at that very seriously, Bozak is a real talent.

Actually if we did that move I'd probably want to keep Grabovski as a back top two-line centre (but normally on the 3rd)

Or am I way out in left field?
 
I really like Bozak for some reason.... I know there aren't many college kids that pan out to major stars, but I believe Adam Oates was a great set up man who was smart. I see very similar things in Bozak. Oates and Hull in St. Louis were DEADLY. I see similar things (not that great of course) with Kessel and Bozak.

I am sure Kadri could spend some time on the wing... he is very sneaky and fast, and he does well coming in off the wing with his shot.

If Burke can do the Savard thing and use Kabby to get that first line power forward (ie Ryan or Perry) you might be able to have two awesome lines that are different than others have posted

Perry Savard Kadri
Torres Bozak Kessel

Just to give each line some size and toughness with crazy skill. If Savard can make anybody get goals, could you imagine what he could do with Kadri???
 
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