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LeafOfFaith said:
The last thing we know about Savard, is that he missed most of March and April, and came back with absolutely nothing in the playoffs.
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[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hNo9w7CRnJc"]YouTube- Marc Savard OT goal 5/1/10[/ame]

Personally, I think we can excuse the 3 points in 7 playoff games given that he had missed so much time. This was a great moment though.
 
hockeylover said:
MNIJ, agreed. Savard for a "soft deal" (SOFT DEALS DON'T INCLUDE JEFF FINGERS OF THE WORLD) is a gift.
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The only reason it might not is because of Burke's misplaced sense of honor when it comes to these things, as I could imagine him giving Chiarelli a decent asset or two just to lessen the bad press he'd get if he did trade Savard for Finger.

All I know is, if I were Burke, I wouldn't accept any "fair" deal for Savard. I'd submit my one-sided offer and very easily live with it if they didn't take it.

Last thing I want to see is Boston icing a ****ing lineup chock full of a would-be young Leafs all-star team of Rask-Seguin-2011 1st- Stalberg-Gunnar.
 
What's this about Savard's body breaking down?

The guy isn't quite 33 yet and previous to this season had missed 8 games total in the previous 4 seasons combined.

He came back from a concussion that most thought would end his season (they had to keep him in complete darkness at one point because he was so light sensitive) and had zero, absolutely no set backs.

Other than that he had a broken foot that he suffered in training camp but played with for a few weeks not knowing it was broken (just sore), and then a minor knee injury.

The concussion is obviously a concern (being his 4th, the other 3 significantly less severe, the last one of those being 6 years ago), but other than that he's only ever had surgery on his ankle (7 years ago) and hasn't had an issue with the ankle since. He's had a few very minor knee issues over the year, but hardly enough to declare that his body is breaking down due to them.
 
You can stop with the Finger thing seriously. Burke wouldn't be able to look Chiarelli in the eye ever again if he offered that.
 
kmcgran_hockey

#Leafs decline to tender contract to Mitchell. Will be UFA on July 1. talks will continue. Mitchell wants to return, Leafs want him back.
 
We've had a couple of guys the past few years that have come back from serious concussions and haven't had problems like Gagne and Bergeron. I would take either on my team.
 
and another question....


since when is .80ppg terrible? I mean, other than for Ovechkin, Crosby, etc, .80ppg is a decent enough season.

The man was 1.0 ppg before the foot injury, scored 15 in 21 games (with absolutely no ****ing help in Boston last year) before the knee injury, then 11 points in 13 games returning from the knee injury.

He then missed 2 months and sucked against Philly when he returned from a severe concussion into a 2nd round playoff series...colour me ****ing shocked.

As long as his head checks out, he's as good a candidate to bounce back as you'll possible find.
 
Trading 101: Never, ever give up more than you have to under any circumstances.

If Chiarelli curses Burke's ancestors for the rest of his life because the most he'll give up is Finger and Chiarelli has to take it, then so be it.

As a GM, you don't do any favors for anyone when your team is in 29th place. You **** them hard, like he did with Sutter, and enjoy it.

The situation looks to be that Chiarelli has two options - hold on to Savard when he really doesn't want to, and maybe can't, or trade him to the Leafs. We don't have to make his choice any rosier, especially not when the ****er is going to be using our first rounder yet again in 2011.
 
People forget that even when Savard was in the lineup with the Bruins last year, he was given God awful wingers. Byron Bitz? Brutal.
 
hockeylover said:
kmcgran_hockey

#Leafs decline to tender contract to Mitchell. Will be UFA on July 1. talks will continue. Mitchell wants to return, Leafs want him back.
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Sure they want him back.

That's why they didn't offer him a 10% raise and will allow every other team to take him for free.

Looks to me like the Mitchie era is over.
 
Trading 101: Never, ever give up more than you have to under any circumstances.

If Chiarelli curses Burke's ancestors for the rest of his life because the most he'll give up is Finger and Chiarelli has to take it, then so be it.

As a GM, you don't do any favors for anyone when your team is in 29th place. You **** them hard, like he did with Sutter, and enjoy it.

The situation looks to be that Chiarelli has two options - hold on to Savard when he really doesn't want to, and maybe can't, or trade him to the Leafs. We don't have to make his choice any rosier, especially not when the ****er is going to be using our first rounder yet again in 2011.
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Trading 101: Never burn your bridges. Don't offer insulting trade proposals to your colleagues. Maintain good relationships around the league.

Burke absolutely would never offer Finger for Savard. Not on your life.

Even when Burke absolutely raped Sutter, he stood in front of the microphones with a straight face and praised his creativity. He's not out to embarrass anyone.
 
I can completely understand why the Leafs don't want Mitchell back.

But to suggest they want him back when they don't even bother qualifying him would be wrong.
 
LeafOfFaith said:
Trading 101: Never, ever give up more than you have to under any circumstances.

If Chiarelli curses Burke's ancestors for the rest of his life because the most he'll give up is Finger and Chiarelli has to take it, then so be it.

As a GM, you don't do any favors for anyone when your team is in 29th place. You **** them hard, like he did with Sutter, and enjoy it.

The situation looks to be that Chiarelli has two options - hold on to Savard when he really doesn't want to, and maybe can't, or trade him to the Leafs. We don't have to make his choice any rosier, especially not when the ****er is going to be using our first rounder yet again in 2011.
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In what world does trading Savard for Finger help the Bruins?

They don't save cap space and they get an inferior player.

You gotta drop this because it makes you look bad.
 
Sorry guys. There's all types of tweets coming in re: Mitchell and I'm getting sidetracked.

mirtle Sounds like Leafs don't give qualifying offer to John Mitchell. QO only had to be $550k so cost wasn't issue.

To me it sounds like cost isn't the issue, the issue is that the Leafs want to explore their options in the Bottom 6 and find something that fits better. Seems like what they told Primeau - you'll have to wait. Don't call us, we'll call you.

*Edit* Here's another take:

kmcgran_hockey #lEAFS If the Leafs had qualified Mitchell with an offer to retain his rights, Mitchell also would have qualified for arbitration.
 
hockeylover said:
Zeke, how much did it raise by this year again? It was interesting that Burke said today that an agent told him the NHLPA voted in favour of the hike because they'd done it for past free agent classes and thought it'd be unfair if they stopped now. That suggests they'll continue to do so.
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with the economy tanking it really slowed the growth down the last couple of years....but it still grew. we'll see what happens going forward.

and yeah, they've used he 5% "escalator" every single year, so the only time there's actually an artificial 5% boost is in the first year.

2005/06 Cap: $39.0m
2006/07 Cap: $44.0m (+15.4%)
2007/08 Cap: $50.3m (+14.3%)
2008/09 Cap: $56.7m (+12.7%)
2009/10 Cap: $56.8m (+0.2%)
2010/11 Cap: $59.4m (+4.6%)

If we just use 5% average over the next 7 years:

2011/12 Cap: $62.4
2012/13 Cap: $65.5
2013/14 Cap: $68.8
2014/15 Cap: $72.2
2015/16 Cap: $75.8
2016/17 Cap: $79.6
2017/17 Cap: $83.6

although the 5% estimate is admittedly pretty much baseless.
 
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