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MindzEye said:
and another question....


since when is .80ppg terrible? I mean, other than for Ovechkin, Crosby, etc, .80ppg is a decent enough season.

The man was 1.0 ppg before the foot injury, scored 15 in 21 games (with absolutely no ****ing help in Boston last year) before the knee injury, then 11 points in 13 games returning from the knee injury.

He then missed 2 months and sucked against Philly when he returned from a severe concussion into a 2nd round playoff series...colour me ****ing shocked.

As long as his head checks out, he's as good a candidate to bounce back as you'll possible find.
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On paper, you are right.

But concussion is a serious injury. For weeks after the hit Savard couldn't even get up from bed without throwing up.

Sometimes all it takes is 1 concussion and the player's never the same. Not saying that is the case with Savard now, and the fact he could at least lace up and play in the Flyers series was a good sign.

But all I'm saying is, be cautious, and Burke & Co gotta fully realize it is a RISK still.

Plus, think about this - the Bruins were an offensively challenged team last season, and despite how the Toronto media thinks Burke got fleeced in the Kessel trade, the Bruins media and fans were equally harsh on Chia when his team struggled in the season, and when they couldn't even buy a goal.

So when they go to Savard, and ask him to waive his NTC so that they can move him - that should be at least raise at least a yellow flag.
 
Real_ESPNLeBrun For what's it worth, Leafs source says they've still not "ever" spoken to Boston about potential trade for Marc Savard.
 
hockeylover said:
Trading 101: Never burn your bridges. Don't offer insulting trade proposals to your colleagues. Maintain good relationships around the league.

Burke absolutely would never offer Finger for Savard. Not on your life.

Even when Burke absolutely raped Sutter, he stood in front of the microphones with a straight face and praised his creativity. He's not out to embarrass anyone.
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Whether he will or won't remains to be seen. But he should.

He can offer Finger (thereby only a total savings of $21M for Boston), and two prospects like Caputi and Stefanovich, and stand there with a straight face and say that Boston got two high end prospects for Savard, and took Finger to lighten the $28M blow.

You don't have to maintain a good relationship by bending over. You tell Chiarelli that Savard isn't the perfect fit for us, but we'd take him under the following circumstances. If he wants it, take it, if not, leave it.

There's absolutely nothing wrong in doing that when the guy you're getting back has as many issues as Savard would in this case.
 
leafman101 said:
Not much less than 550k.

I think HL is right. Mitchell is probably plan B or C at this point. They'll bring him back if they can't get what they want for the bottom 6.
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I thought it was around 450K.

I guess the Leafs will see what's out there first, but I wouldn't toss away any young player who has shown he's capable of playing a regular shift at the NHL level. At the very least, he can be a great Marlie and depth player.
 
PlayerToBeNamedLater said:
In what world does trading Savard for Finger help the Bruins?

They don't save cap space and they get an inferior player.

You gotta drop this because it makes you look bad.
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You have to think bigger picture here, guys.

Boston saves $21 MILLION dollars in the deal I proposed. They get a shitty player with two years left for a risky player with seven years left, as well as two decent prospects.

They endure Finger for two years and then they're out with two good prospects maybe in the lineup and contributing. And they've got a $4M cap cushion beginning in year 3 going forward.

This is a salary dump, plain and simple. And that's a pretty good outcome for a team that has its hands tied by an NTC that makes only one team a possible trade destination.
 
LeafOfFaith said:
You have to think bigger picture here, guys.

Boston saves $21 MILLION dollars in the deal I proposed. They get a shitty player with two years left for a risky player with seven years left, as well as two decent prospects.

They endure Finger for two years and then they're out with two good prospects maybe in the lineup and contributing. And they've got a $4M cap cushion beginning in year 3 going forward.

This is a salary dump, plain and simple. And that's a pretty good outcome for a team that has its hands tied by an NTC that makes only one team a possible trade destination.
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BOSTON HAS A SERIOUS CAP SITUATION THIS YEAR.
 
the mitchell thing might have something to do with wanting him on a two-way deal.

not sure what the rules are, though.
 
PlayerToBeNamedLater said:
BOSTON HAS A SERIOUS CAP SITUATION THIS YEAR.
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Then they can bury Finger in the AHL - something they can't and won't do with Savard - and free up the remainder of the salary difference. They can also ask that we take expiring Ryder off their hands to even it out.

Either way, under no circumstances should they walk away with any more of our good prospects.
 
zeke said:
the mitchell thing might have something to do with wanting him on a two-way deal.

not sure what the rules are, though.
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Was thinking the same thing.

Checked, but can't find any info as to whether a qualifying offer can be a two-way deal.
 
(iii) A Club's Qualifying Offer must be a One-Way Qualifying Offer if
the applicable Player has: (A) actually played (excluding games
missed for injury, illness or disability) 180 or more NHL Games in
the previous three (3) NHL Seasons, (B) played at least sixty (60)
NHL Games in the previous NHL Season, and (C) not cleared
Waivers in the period between the 12th day prior to the
commencement of the previous Regular Season and the end of a
Club's previous Playing Season. For purposes hereof only, a
goaltender is deemed to have played an NHL Game when he was
dressed and on the bench as a backup. In all other cases, a
Qualifying Offer may be a Two-Way Qualifying Offer.
 
He did indeed play 60 games, Zeke. Good work. No one in the Toronto media has come up with this possibility yet.

FI >>>>>>>>> Toronto Hacks.
 
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