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Blueman said:
You sound ridiculous when you incorrectly spell ridiculous (twice in one post).
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Which is why everyone should use Firefox... built in spell check rules. It underlines every spelling mistake. I think I've added almost every hockey player to the dictionary too, so that's a cool feature.
 
So does Google chrome........but spelling it properly doesn't hammer the point home enough.



this is the interwebs, you gotta make shit stand out, to give it proper levity.
 
Habspatrol said:
Which is why everyone should use Firefox... built in spell check rules. It underlines every spelling mistake. I think I've added almost every hockey player to the dictionary too, so that's a cool feature.
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Problem is when I use words like colour it underlines them because its using the American spelling system.
 
Montana said:
The idea that Burke was trying to sign Martin, just so other teams couldn't have him, and he could get more for Kaberle is f*cking retarted.

If he was signing Martin, it's because (a) he liked him as a defenseman, (b) he wanted to replace what we lose in dealing Kaberele........and possibly (c) he'd enjoy the benefit of increasing the market for Kaberle in the process.


....but the idea he did it just to keep him away from others, is retarted.
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what's 'retarted' is when people attribute arguments to others that they didn't make.

i didn't say he did it 'just' to keep him away from other teams. i do, however, think that was as important a factor as any.

if he didn't fit salary- or talent-wise then it wouldn't happen. but burke had a huge opportunity to up kaberle's value on the trade market significantly. you're retarted if you think that wasn't coursing through his mind.
 
I'm getting really tired of people on this forum assuming that they're Burke's personal mind-reader and then calling others out when they disagree with a subjective interpretation of the situation. And for the record I called the Armstrong and soon-to-be Torres signings months ago.
 
I'd like Torres, but where would he even play?

Versteeg Bozak Kessel
Caputi Kadri Kulemin
Sjostrom Grabovski Armstrong
Orr Hanson Brown

I think if you get a first line winger, that pushes Versteeg, Caputi, and Sjostrom each down a line, or I suppose you can insert Torres on the third line and push Sjostrom down one. But then when they add the top 6 winger, where does Caputi go?

There's a bit of a logjam, looking like another trade of a forward might be on tap. And the fact that Kulemin is still unsigned scares me a great deal. I have to wonder, how do they justify to Kulemin that he's not worth $3M now that they've given that to Armstrong? They should've locked him up to whatever he wanted in the $2.5M range the other night and avoided this problem.
 
JaysCyYoung said:
I'm getting really tired of people on this forum assuming that they're Burke's personal mind-reader and then calling others out when they disagree with a subjective interpretation of the situation. And for the record I called the Armstrong and soon-to-be Torres signings months ago.
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except he didn't disagree with me, you dumb **** he just clearly skimmed my argument and attributed an argument to me that i did not make.
 
msun30 said:
what's 'retarted' is when people attribute arguments to others that they didn't make.

i didn't say he did it 'just' to keep him away from other teams. i do, however, think that was as important a factor as any.

if he didn't fit salary- or talent-wise then it wouldn't happen. but burke had a huge opportunity to up kaberle's value on the trade market significantly. you're retarted if you think that wasn't coursing through his mind.
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Any inflation of Kaberle's value, via a Martin signing, would simply have been a positive by product for Burke and the Leafs.......not something that we would have pushed him in the direction of making such a signing.

He'd be signing him because (a) he wanted a Kaberle replacement, and (b) because he liked the player, and liked the potential terms we could get him for.
 
Montana said:
Any inflation of Kaberle's value, via a Martin signing, would simply have been a positive by product for Burke and the Leafs.......not something that we would have pushed him in the direction of making such a signing.

He'd be signing him because (a) he wanted a Kaberle replacement, and (b) because he liked the player, and liked the potential terms we could get him for.
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nah, i'm telling you... he ponied up for him to get him off the market.

again, if he didn't make perfect sense for a leafs team sans kaberle it wouldn't have happened. but there's a reason why he targeted martin (a big moneyed defenseman) when cheaper options are available (and are better fits, given the money toronto has already invested in its D).
 
LeafOfFaith said:
I'd like Torres, but where would he even play?

Versteeg Bozak Kessel
Caputi Kadri Kulemin
Sjostrom Grabovski Armstrong
Orr Hanson Brown

I think if you get a first line winger, that pushes Versteeg, Caputi, and Sjostrom each down a line, or I suppose you can insert Torres on the third line and push Sjostrom down one. But then when they add the top 6 winger, where does Caputi go?

There's a bit of a logjam, looking like another trade of a forward might be on tap. And the fact that Kulemin is still unsigned scares me a great deal. I have to wonder, how do they justify to Kulemin that he's not worth $3M now that they've given that to Armstrong? They should've locked him up to whatever he wanted in the $2.5M range the other night and avoided this problem.
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It is a bit of a problem.

Let's assume Torres would sign for peanuts first.

Now, you look at our bottom 6, and take out guys who don't belong according to Burke's "top 6, bottom 6" system:
Grabovski - the only reason he might stay, is as a contingency plan for Bozak - Kadri down the middle. Strong chances he'll be traded before season starts though.
Caputi - Not sure he'll stick around in the NHL. He has potential, but the way he played at the end of last season seems to indicate he needs more AHL seasoning.

So now your top / bottom 6 looks like ...

XXXX - Kadri - Kessel
Kulemin - Bozak - Versteeg
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Sjostrom - Hanson - Armstrong
Orr - YYYY - Brown

It seems like we need a 4th line C more than anything, and Torres doesn't play C. I don't think Burke will play Grabs on the 3rd line and send Hanson down to the 4th line.

Of course, if Burke trades for Savard or a top line center then it changes everything too.
 
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