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Just sick of everyone just expecting us to somehow get a young 1st line forward, without a sweat. Then when we don't, there are threads upon threads on how Burke is failing cause he can't get the 1st line guy to help this offense.

These guys don't get traded that often, and I'm doubting that we are going to throw 100M + at Kov.

I have faith that Burke is trying all avenues to get us the 1st line guy.
 
TimHorton said:
Why do you consider Kaberle not a sweat?
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I have no clue what you mean by that...

But if Kaberle was going to net us a front line player, we would have already done it.

There is just this expectation that Burke will get us a 1st line player, like it's just expected...it's likely just going to disappoint people.
 
Montana said:
......you just don't want anyone talking about said avenues.
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Kaberle for Vanek?

Really?

If you were a fan of Buffalo, would you even think about doing that trade? Knowing that Kaberle would very likely just walk away after one year - cause lets all face it...who the hell wants to play in Buffalo?

But this is more about that Armstrong thread, guess I should have just posted it there. Level of disappointment there from many posters about adding a 3rd line guy and not going after a 1st line guy.
 
soco22 said:
I have no clue what you mean by that...

But if Kaberle was going to net us a front line player, we would have already done it.

There is just this expectation that Burke will get us a 1st line player, like it's just expected...it's likely just going to disappoint people.
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Well, he did get us a 1st line forward (Kessel) and a 1st pairing dman (Phaneuf) last year.

I think he has something up his sleave this offseason as well.
 
soco22 said:
Kaberle for Vanek?

Really?
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The thing is, Vanek makes 7 mill a year. Not many teams can take on that type of deal right now. If he was making 4 or 5 mill, it would be a different story. Plus, he's coming off a rather mediocre season for him. Some risk in Vanek with that type of contract.
 
PlayerToBeNamedLater said:
The thing is, Vanek makes 7 mill a year. Not many teams can take on that type of deal right now. If he was making 4 or 5 mill, it would be a different story. Plus, he's coming off a rather mediocre season for him. Some risk in Vanek with that type of contract.
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It's true that 7M is a lot, but one medicore year shouldn't be enough to just want to dump. I haven't heard anything about Buffalo being in cap trouble. Don't they would just dump him for a rent a player. From Buffalo's perspective, would have to guess that it would be talented youth that they could retain for a number of years.

Sitting here with a Buffalo fan at work, and he was calling that idea pathetic and what not...he makes a solid point.
 
For a team with monetary concerns, like Buffalo.....paying someone 7 million a year for 28/53 isn't gonna cut it.

If Vanek produces at that rate again, then he's completely and utterly untradeable..........so it's entirely reasonable to think they'd consider dealing him for a defenseman who nearly matched Vanek's point total last year, for a fraction of the cost.



Sitting here with a Buffalo fan at work, and he was calling that idea pathetic and what not...
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well that settles it.......if a Buffalo fan said it?

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soco22 said:
It's true that 7M is a lot, but one medicore year shouldn't be enough to just want to dump. I haven't heard anything about Buffalo being in cap trouble. Don't they would just dump him for a rent a player. From Buffalo's perspective, would have to guess that it would be talented youth that they could retain for a number of years.

Sitting here with a Buffalo fan at work, and he was calling that idea pathetic and what not...he makes a solid point.
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They'd be dumping Vanek for a top 10 offensive dman in his prime (their #1 need right now), who they should have no problem re-signing given how close Buffalo is to Toronto.
 
soco22 said:
It's true that 7M is a lot, but one medicore year shouldn't be enough to just want to dump. I haven't heard anything about Buffalo being in cap trouble. Don't they would just dump him for a rent a player.
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There's no chance. But there is certainly the option of signing an extension with Kabs before completing the trade.

I don't think this trade will happen, but it is worthy of discussion.
 
Should also be pointed out, Buffalo didn't want to give Vanek that deal in the first place, but were forced into it by the Oilers.........they accepted the offer sheet because he was coming off a 43 goal, 84 point campaign.


Since then, he hasn't topped 64 points..........it's absolutely reasonable to think they'd be looking for a way out from under that contract for another 4 years.
 
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