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zeke said:
he went with Stajan/Grabo/Primeau last year.

I'm sure he's ok going with Bozak/Grabo/Kadri.
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I prefer bozak over Stajan and Kadri over Primeau too, but we're still going to be outmatched by any team that has a real #1, just like last year when we had Stajan and Grabo.
 
Teeds, you really hate Phaneuf eh, wow, I dont think Ive ever seen a positive comment about him from you.

And you overrate Stalberg like you are secretly sleeping with him on the side.
 
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Originally Posted by zeke
he went with Stajan/Grabo/Primeau last year.

I'm sure he's ok going with Bozak/Grabo/Kadri.
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That's got to be scary.

I can't believe he went into last year with that down the middle.
 
I somewhat agree with teeds. I like phaneuf, but for him to be his best he has to keep people honest, and by honest he has to hurt people every once in a while. If he's the meanest d-man in the east , I don't even care if his offensive totals don't come back to what they once where.
 
teeds said:
My source at MLSE raves about Phaneuf, thinks he is the next coming of Pronger. But me, I think he is very overrated. He has some skills, but he is not all that. And to trade a guy like Stalberg just because some alfamale alcoholic doesn't like his presence is just brutal.

Stalberg is the quintessential hack and chop five on five NHL player. He is huge, can skate like the wind, and we should never have given up on him.

So what if Stalberg tops out at 28 goals or something like that. He keeps clumsy defences up at night, because of the difficulties he presents to them.

Will Phaneuf keep anyone up at night prior to playing the Leafs? He doesn't fight any more, he doesn't crosscheck anyone in the mouth to scare the whole league. All he does is YAP and the Leaf nation falls in love with him.

There is a reason Calgary took three pooches for this dud. He is no longer valued around the league, but HERE he is totally overrated.
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You're out to lunch here Teeds, sorry bro.

Phaneuf is a top defensemen in this league and his presence alone calmed our entire defense core.

I was at his first game as a leaf, and I sure remember him fighting on one of his first shifts.

He is absolutely a player that will keep opposing players up at night. 10times more then Stalberg.

Everyone needs to know when Phanuef is on the ice as he can bury anyone. He hits, hes steady is his own zone, he has a cannon of a shot, he fights and hes a leader. I love that we have him for at least another 4 seasons.

Stalberg is fast, but he doesnt throw his weight around, he needs work on playing without the puck, and he needs to learn the game at the NHL level.

I think him topping out at 28 goals is not going to happen anytime soon and he will need a few years to get any kind of consistency.

There were numerous times last season that would beg the question if he was ready for the NHL. And this is even after he was sent down and brought back up.

You cant take away that he skates like the wind, but really there isnt any other top qualities to brag about at this stage of his career.

You always want to see guys like this improve and get better and do it for your team, but hes no guarantee to be a consistant 20-25-30 goal scorer.
 
Big Rumours out of Leaf land (no not the Lebda signing) - will be something to report by end of day Friday.
 
Cory_BSF said:
I somewhat agree with teeds. I like phaneuf, but for him to be his best he has to keep people honest, and by honest he has to hurt people every once in a while. If he's the meanest d-man in the east , I don't even care if his offensive totals don't come back to what they once where.
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If he slips into the role of a 30-35 point, mean, tough as nails defenseman he'll still be good.

But he'll be overpaid at 6.5 to do just that.
 
It seems to me that the opinion from most of the Leaf bashers around here, 95% of the players on the Leafs are overpaid.
 
Kritter said:
It seems to me that the opinion from most of the Leaf bashers around here, 95% of the players on the Leafs are overpaid.
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Well, looking around the league, probably a good 90% of players around the league are "overpaid" according to what we think they should make.
 
No. Which is why I said "if".

But he only got 32 points this past season, so it's not out of the realm of possibility.
 
People just don't understand that the cost of players has risen the last 5 years as the cap has risen from $39 to $60 million.

These guys aren't overpaid. And its just dumb to say "this guy is overpaid...he should be making 500k less." 500k? You're going to waste your time talking about 500k?

You can't even get a player for that amount of money.
 
If he slips into the role of a 30-35 point, mean, tough as nails defenseman he'll still be good.

But he'll be overpaid at 6.5 to do just that.
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4 out of his 5 NHL seasons suggest that's not all that likely.
 
leafman101 said:
People just don't understand that the cost of players has risen the last 5 years as the cap has risen from $39 to $60 million.

These guys aren't overpaid. And its just dumb to say "this guy is overpaid...he should be making 500k less." 500k? You're going to waste your time talking about 500k?

You can't even get a player for that amount of money.
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"50 cent alot of money!, you save 50 cent here, you go somewhere else you save 50 cent, then you have 1 dollar. ......... Then you go to the dollar store and buy something else!"

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-qtrAMK7_Qk"]YouTube- russell peters: be a man[/ame]
 
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