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I've been saying this from the get-go.

No need whatsoever to take on the risk and commitment of Savard.

Spend the money on a great winger and everything will fall into place.
 
zeke said:
Savard has a better chance.

But I'm not sure how HUGELY a better chance that is.
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It's pretty huge.


The more I look at him, the harder is it for me to ignore:

1) His concussions.
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Legit concern.....not sure it's as big a deal as some would like to believe though.


2) His 33 year oldedness.
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Another legit concern......how far into the 4 year deal can we expect him to keep up his 1st line play.


3) His declining production.
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I don't find this much of a concern, last year is a complete right off, given that he started the year with a broken foot, the MCL injury, the concussion...

The two previous years he played at a 86 and 88 point pace, which is right in line with what I'd suspect him to play at this coming season.

I think he's a far safer bet to crack 80, than either Kadri or Bozak are to crack 70, for instance.


I love Savvy, and really wish JFJ had signed him for $5m instead of Boston.....but I'm not so sure now.
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I still think adding Savard would be one of the wisest moves we could make right now.

I mentioned it before, but I'm not convinced that the wingers we're being offered in a deal for Kaberle, are any better than Kadri would be for us on the wing.

Keeping Kaberle (and moving out Grabo, Finger, etc) and adding Savard, makes us a better team imo..........that dealing Kaberle for (likely) a 2nd line winger, and a prospect.



Unless I'm way off and we have some real great players being offered up in a Kaberle deal (Vanek, Ryan)......then I think adding Savard, keeping Kaberle, and freeing up cap space elsewhere, makes us a better team.
 
I was originally on board with Savard, but I want this team to go with Kadri and Bozak. I have faith in those guys becoming real good players at this level.

The appealing thing about Savard though is how cheap his contract is. I wonder if he could play the wing. He's not great on faceoffs, and isn't the best two way guy.
 
Could be. I especially like that Savard's contract works even if he's just a #2 centre as he ages.

Thing is, I'm really high on Kadri/Bozak potentially being our 1/2 for years to come.....7 years of Savard doesn't really fit that plan.
 
Kulemin - Savard - Kessel
Versteeg - Bozak - Kadri
Armstrong - Hanson - Sjostrom
Brown - Mitchell - Orr
(Caputi)

Beauchemin - Phaneuf
Kaberle - Komisarek
Gunnarson - Schenn
(Lebda)


Gustavsson
Giguere




How far over the cap is that?
 
zeke said:
So did COL/BUF/PHI/CHI/PIT/WAS/LA make a mistake in going with young unproven centres when they did?
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You can do it if they're star/superstar young talents, sure. Is Boston going to rely on Seguin to be in their lineup in the near future? You betcha -- which is why Jacobs has told Chiarelli to unload the contract.

Do you think that Kadri or Bozak compare to Toews, Kopitar, Backstrom, etc?

If they do, we're set, I'll give you that much.
 
I think the best plan would be to trade Kabs for Savard. They both make roughly the same salary, and Savard when health can still put up 90 plus points.
 
I think the best plan would be to trade Kabs for Savard. They both make roughly the same salary, and Savard when health can still put up 90 plus points.
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Well that would make you an idiot.
 
Sometimes I accidentally start reading them, only to realize halfway through that only one person could possibly be the author. :puke:
 
Mega said:
Is there anyway to block certain posts so that I can avoid irritating my brain?
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Click on "User CP" up at the top right hand of the page, click on "edit ignore list" on the menu on the left side of the page, copy and paste or write the member in question's username into "add a member to your list", click "okay", and then there you go! You never have to see one of their posts again.
 
I don't like using ignore, because then you can't point out why that poster is a fool for making that particular statement.
 
I don't see how you can call Roy a clear cut #1 center and yet give Koivu and Plekanec a question mark.
 
Let's start with playoff contenders first - and, like you just implied, they don't need to be as good as those guys for the Leafs to be playoff contenders in short order.

And if they don't end up being cup calibre centres over the next few years, then we have to try some new guys. That's how it works.
 
zeke said:
Let's start with playoff contenders first - and, like you just implied, they don't need to be as good as those guys for the Leafs to be playoff contenders in short order.

And if they don't end up being cup calibre centres over the next few years, then we have to try some new guys. That's how it works.
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If they're as good as you think, we should make the playoffs easily with the defence and goaltending we have. Easily.
 
How good do you think I think they are, exactly?

I've got them both coming in around 50-60pts this year.

That, along with Grabo's similar production, and the improved goaltending and defense, should definitely have them in the playoff hunt this year.
 
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