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If we could bury Finger and move Grabovski, we'd be 1.4 over with Hanson left to re-sign... but that's assuming full bonuses - we'd likely be OK with bonus cushion.
 
zeke said:
Interesting - Coburn is questionable, but has a great package of skills and huge upside, and is already at a good level.

A gagne/coburn return in a kaberle-based deal definitely gets my attention.
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This would involve the Leafs taking on $4.2M in net salary. How can we do that?
 
leafman101 said:
Yeah, but it would be preferable if he wasn't 33 years old with baggage.

Especially when every single core player on this team is 25 and under.
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If you have any suggestions on how to acquire a 25 year old PPG center, that makes 4 million per year for the next four year, I'm all over it.


Given that that's not an option though, I think it's pretty ridiculous to think we shouldn't try to acquire Savard.


Savard single handedly makes this team significantly better than any other legitimately possible acquisition I've seen proposed.
 
Montana said:
If you have any suggestions on how to acquire a 25 year old PPG center, that makes 4 million per year for the next four year, I'm all over it.


Given that that's not an option though, I think it's pretty ridiculous to think we shouldn't try to acquire Savard.


Savard single handedly makes this team significantly better than any other legitimately possible acquisition I've seen proposed.
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Maybe we should try developing one for a change.
 
AUTO-GENERATED CAPGEEK.COM LINES
FORWARDS
Phil Kessel ($5.400m) / * Gagne ($5.000m) / Tyler Bozak ($3.725m)
Kris Versteeg ($3.083m) / Colby Armstrong ($3.000m) / Nikolai Kulemin ($2.350m)
Nazem Kadri ($1.720m) / * Christian Hanson ($1.000m) / Colton Orr ($1.000m)
Luca Caputi ($0.833m) / Fredrik Sjostrom ($0.750m) / John Mitchell ($0.725m)
Mike Brown ($0.537m)
DEFENSEMEN
Dion Phaneuf ($6.500m) / Mike Komisarek ($4.500m)
Francois Beauchemin ($3.800m) / * Coburn ($3.200m)
Luke Schenn ($2.975m) / Brett Lebda ($1.450m)
Carl Gunnarsson ($0.800m)
GOALTENDERS
Jean-Sebastien Giguere ($6.000m) / Jonas Gustavsson ($1.350m)
CAPGEEK.COM TOTALS
(these totals are compiled using the bonus cushion)

ROSTER: 22;
CAP: $59.4m;
CARRY-OVER PENALTY: $1.400m
PAYROLL: $62.099m;
BONUSES: $6.235m;
CAP ROOM: $1.756m
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And only about $2.9 million of the bonuses are really attainable, so that puts them just under the cap at about $58.8 million.

Gagne-Kadri-Versteeg
Kulemin-Bozak-Kessel
Caputi-Hanson-Armstrong
Brown-Mitchell-Sjostrom
Orr

Phaneuf-Beauch
Schenn-Gunn
Coburn-Komi
Lebda

Gus
Jiggy
 
Montana said:
If you have any suggestions on how to acquire a 25 year old PPG center, that makes 4 million per year for the next four year, I'm all over it.


Given that that's not an option though, I think it's pretty ridiculous to think we shouldn't try to acquire Savard.


Savard single handedly makes this team significantly better than any other legitimately possible acquisition I've seen proposed.
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I don't think they need to acquire a center, especially a 33 year old one on a long term deal.

A top line winger like Gagne would be perfect.
 
number17 said:
I've gone back and forth on Savard, but at the end of the day, the length of his contract makes me say no.

If Burke believes Kadri and Bozak are good enough to be 1-2 for this team, which I believe so, then Savard's long term contract will hinder these young players' development.
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You don't pass on a PPG center, because you have two players that you feel could be "good enough" to play 1-2.

Kadri's 19, I don't see him career being incredibly stunted if he wasn't able to take over a 1st line center role, until he was 22 or 23.
 
leafman101 said:
I don't think they need to acquire a center, especially a 33 year old one on a long term deal.

A top line winger like Gagne would be perfect.
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I'd take....

Kulemin - Savard - Kessel
Kadri - Bozak - Versteeg

over...

Kulemin - Bozak - Kessel
Gagne - Kadri - Versteeg




7 days a week and twice on Sunday.
 
zeke said:
Imagine we'd have to trade Grabo. Maybe to Phoenix for a prospect or something.
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Thanks - sorry, I thought I saw someone do this cap calculator with Finger and Grabs removed ... but still close to the cap. Didn't account for also removing Kabs' hit!
 
Re: Finger won't be buried argument; Put together this list answering a question over at the Habs board, thought I'd share.

Players who've been buried and their cap hits
Mogilny to Albany at $3.5
Witt at $3 million playing for Bridgeport.
Satan sent down briefly with the Wilkes-Barre at $3.5 million.
Nylander at $4.875 to Grand Rapids
McLaren at $2.5 to Worcester
Cheechoo to Binghamton at $3.5 million
Mark Bell at 2.17 million to Marlies, then Hartford
 
leafman101 said:
Thats because you're short sighted.
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Indeed.

Kadri may not exceed 15-20G 40-50Pts this season as a rookie (that'd be very good numbers for a rookie actually) but he is expected to develop into a 1st line center in 3-4 years time.

Bozak has already shown he can post 2nd line C numbers last season. All he has to show is he can consistently put up those numbers.

If you take on Savard, you've essentially bumped Kadri / Bozak to 2nd / 3rd line C, or convert them to wingers position ... neither is good for their development.

Worst part, Savard has a NTC, and he's only waiving it for 2 cities - Toronto and Ottawa. We'll have a HARD TIME ridding Savard for years to come even if Kadri / Bozak prove they are ready for 1-2 line minutes.
 
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