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leafman101 said:
Kovy is the most dynamic goal scorer in the game not named Ovechkin.

There really isn't a comparable player.
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Kovalchuck is one of the best goal scorers, but he's not worth the most money either. The guy has never broken the 100pt mark, he's never lead his team to the playoffs except with Atlanta (jersey doesnt count because they were pretty much in by the time K arrived). He's never won a cup, he's never won any awards (except when he tied for the maurice a few years back). Like I said the guys a $8M a year player.
 
leafman101 said:
How is Zetterberg the most comparable player to Kovy.

Kovy has scored at least 40 goals and 85 points each of the last 6 years except for 1.

Zetterberg has only done either once.
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He's in that second-tier below the Crosby/Malkin/Ovechkin level with the Iginlas, Stamkos', Kanes, Zetterbergs, and Datsyuks. He should earn a salary in the comparable range to them (and Zetterberg's long-term contract is a good recent example). I thought it was pretty straightforward myself.
 
He's more comparable to Thornton. A step below the top 3, but a step above everyone else.

He's pretty easily one of the top 5 offensive players in the game.
 
I wouldn't consider Thornton above that group, and I certainly don't consider Kovalchuk anywhere near a better player than Datsyuk (who I would take every single day if given a choice between the two). We're dealing in tremendously subjective interpretations right now and the "tiers" are not clear-cut after the Big Three.
 
darenmillard

Kovy-gate comes 2 an end tomorrow. Kings win the process.. Don't want announcment 2 get overshadowed by WC.
 
JaysCyYoung said:
I wouldn't consider Thornton above that group, and I certainly don't consider Kovalchuk anywhere near a better player than Datsyuk (who I would take every single day if given a choice between the two). We're dealing in tremendously subjective interpretations right now and the "tiers" are not clear-cut after the Big Three.
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Datsyuk is maybe the best all around player in the game. And a hell of a lot better than Zetterberg. Along with Kovy and Thornton.
 
Also its pretty tough to compare UFA contracts with contracts where guys resigned with their teams for a favourable cap hit.

Kovy is the best player to hit the UFA market that I can remember, and he deserves the best UFA contract that has been handed out.
 
hockeylover said:
I'm waiting for confirmation from one of the big guys.
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I can really see this dragging out for a few weeks, even months. Kovalchuck is just that stubborn, and as much as he's stubborn, teams arent stupid or willing enough to throw top tier money at him. Either Kovalchuck lowers his demands or he gets on the boat to go back to Russia. Theres not much options for him.
 
DownGoesBrown

Lou Lamoriello warming up the Comic Sans... RT @darenmillard: Kovy-gate comes 2 an end tomorrow. Kings win the process.
 
The way I see it, if any of the contenders can fit Kovy in now - you've got to do it, even if it means trading good players to make it work.

Kovy is a HUGE upgrade over what most teams are lining up on the left side... and if Lombardi is too shicken chit to add Kovy and deal with the consequences down the road, it'll be his undoing. Kovy/Kopitar would be the Ovey/Backstrom of the West.
 
I can understand being a little wary of adding Kovy if you think it will impeded you in retaining Doughty....but JJ?

Really? JJ?
 
leafman101 said:
Kovy is the most dynamic goal scorer in the game not named Ovechkin.

There really isn't a comparable player.
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Dynamic? Probably... but I'm sure Stamkos and Crosby fans could make an argument that they are at least close. Crosby scores a lot of garbage goals but he also scores some real beauties.
 
Habspatrol said:
Dynamic? Probably... but I'm sure Stamkos and Crosby fans could make an argument that they are at least close. Crosby scores a lot of garbage goals but he also scores some real beauties.
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Stamkos could give Kovalchuck a good run for his money, I'll give ya that, but Crosby as a goal scorer isnt in the Kovalchuck league, though, Crosby is a 35-45 goal guy, with capabilties to pop out the odd 50 goal season. Kovalchuck in a bad year is a 40-45 goal scorer, in a good year, hes capable of 50, in a great year he could pot 60.
 
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