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PlayerToBeNamedLater said:
It depends on who that top pick is for me.

I'd trade Kaberle + Schenn (#5) for Ryan. But I wouldn't trade Kaberle + Kadri (#7) for Ryan.
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Before the draft happened no one wanted to do it.

You are way undervaluing our assets here.

the Leafs got a comparable player for a lot less within the last year.
 
You can find lots of Schenn's sadly. As for Kaberle he's a brilliant player, but we're deep at the back and have all the scoring touch of Zeke at a skinny girl's party.

I make that trade with no regrets.
 
leafman101 said:
Before the draft happened no one wanted to do it.

You are way undervaluing our assets here.

the Leafs got a comparable player for a lot less within the last year.
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I'd trade the Leafs 2012 1st, 2013 1st, 2012 2nd for Ryan.

But the Ducks aren't accepting that though.

I'm willing to overpay for young 30-35 gl /60-70 pt players with the potential to be 50/90 players.
 
yeah, we can definitely find a lot of replacements for a 20 yr old Schenn.

A 25 yr old Schenn though?

This isn't just Leaf homerism at work, he was pretty universally pegged as having "best defensive player of his generation" potential prior to the draft....and aside from a 30 game bump in the road last year, he's done nothing to suggest that he's fallen off of a reasonable trajectory to reaching that potential.
 
Good timing for Burkie to be on vacation with his family in SoCal right as the Kovalchuk talks reportedly break down with LA... Hey, just saying.
 
MindzEye said:
yeah, we can definitely find a lot of replacements for a 20 yr old Schenn.

A 25 yr old Schenn though?

This isn't just Leaf homerism at work, he was pretty universally pegged as having "best defensive player of his generation" potential prior to the draft....and aside from a 30 game bump in the road last year, he's done nothing to suggest that he's fallen off of a reasonable trajectory to reaching that potential.
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Is this for real? I'm not even kidding. I never heard anything like that before. I heard that he was supposed to be a good defensive dman, but never anything this strong.
 
Schenn was considered the best defensive defenceman to come out of the draft in around two decades according to some scouting sources. I could probably get you some quotes if you gave me some time, HP.
 
Habspatrol said:
Is this for real? I'm not even kidding. I never heard anything like that before. I heard that he was supposed to be a good defensive dman, but never anything this strong.
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Yes, it's for real.

Thus, the 30+ yr old Scott Stevens comparisons at the time.
 
JaysCyYoung said:
Schenn was considered the best defensive defenceman to come out of the draft in around two decades according to some scouting sources. I could probably get you some quotes if you gave me some time, HP.
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Jays. That was then, now all of us have had a chance to watch him play, not listen to all the "experts". And he is extremely LIMITED. If that is what turns your crank, then, yell yourself hoarse.

Unlike a Kaberle, I don't think he would be missed, IF we got a nice forward back. I don't think anyone would cry for long.

I mean we just gave away Stalberg and he wasn't missed for long. And I think he has EONS more upside than Schenn. Eons.
 
A lot of us happened to watch him play plenty before then, keep up with scouting reports months before the draft, and were quite pleased with his selection, were more pleased when he was named to the All-Rookie Team (the first Leaf since Mike Johnson back in 1997-98 in fact), and continued to be pleased when he solidified himself as a capable top four NHL defenceman by the age of legal majority. I myself happen to admire shutdown experts like Stevens, Hatcher, and Foote.
 
Schenn is already, at 20, as good in his own end as guys who have excellent reputations in their own end like Beauch & Komisarek.

You severely under rate his potential to impact the defensive side of the game.

He's significantly better at 20 than any of the elite defensive defenders currently in the league were at 20.
 
I want some of this Koolaid.

If Schenn wasn't so soft, I'd agree. Maybe he'll toughen up, but there's few signs of the 'human eraser' at the NHL level. Of course, this was pee air's take, so ...
 
Something a lot of people miss when they talk about defensive defenders is that the defensive aspect of the game is what takes so many young defenders so much time extra to figure out. A lot of young elite offensive defenders come almost out of the box with top end offensive production, very close to their career high numbers by the time they're in their early 20's...but it's the defensive aspect of the game that usually requires a few more years to round out.

Most elite defensive defenders aren't even in the league by 20, or if they are, are fringe #5-6 type defenders...not 20+ minute legit top 4 defenders. The Schenn detractors overlook these things regularly.
 
I can appreciate a strong defensive game. I haven't seen anything boner worthy just yet. Sure, it is impressive that he can play at the NHL level at such a young age. But I think you're overlooking a lot of mediocre and at times awful play to suggest that this has been a cakewalk for him.

Still very young and he could emerge as a dominant defensive blueliner, but I'd give him up for Ryan in a nanosecond.
 
BeLeafer said:
I want some of this Koolaid.

If Schenn wasn't so soft, I'd agree. Maybe he'll toughen up, but there's few signs of the 'human eraser' at the NHL level. Of course, this was pee air's take, so ...
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Hits-Blocked Shots

Player A:151 - 104
Player B:173 - 116
Player C:165 - 106

Which one of these players is soft?
 
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