hockeylover
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How are they better?
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How are they better?
corksens
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predictable.
hockeylover
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... Why are you talking about last year to compare our 1-6 right now?
Komisarek 36 gp
Phaneuf 26 gp
Gunnarsson 43 gp
Lebda 0 gp
Finger 39 gp
Exelby 51 gp
White 56 gp
It's a different group. We're talking about our 1-6 as it currently stands.
JaysCyYoung
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A very capable offensive defenceman but is soft and there exist questions about his defensive play.
Is constantly injured and unrealiable to play any significant minutes as a result.
He's capable offensively when given plenty of power play time as two forty point campaigns in the past four seasons inllustrate, but he's also struggled in his own end since he entered the league. Always constantly out of position looking to make the big hit and takes plenty of stupid penalties.
My favourite out of the Canucks top six group but he still needs to be physically stronger to make more of an impact. With additional minutes his 35-40 point offensive production should only grow. If I was a team targetting a Canucks defenceman he's the one I would go after.
Extremely limited offensively and might not play in the league again due to injuries. Would have problems cracking the Leafs defence given the presence of the superior Schenn and Komisarek. Not to mention he's not even Canucks property due to free agency.
Standard fare bottom-pairing defencemen that take bad penalties. I would take Lebda over both of them all-things considered given his superior playoff pedigree and performance in Detroit.
JaysCyYoung
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MindzEye
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Because it's the correct answer.
hockeylover
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All pretty much irrelevant. Our 1 to 6 is different than what was on the ice for us last year.
JaysCyYoung
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Well yeah, I mean it's not like Luongo has been nominated for the Hart Trophy multiple times before in his career, right?
hockeylover
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Still not understanding why you are using what happened last year to evaluate a different blueline.
JaysCyYoung
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Why did the Leafs tighten up defensively in front of Corey Schwab when Joseph was injured during the 2002 season? Teams tend to play much more defensively when they're in front of a lesser talent between the pipes because they can't afford to take as many risks on the offensive end of things. This is ridiculously common in various sports. In baseball, for example, lesser pitchers are often the beneficiary of better run support while guys like Halladay struggle to get any offensive support because the team can't afford to lay back in that situation.
MindzEye
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You'll of course ignore this point despite all the evidence for it, but SV% is the prime indicator for individual quality of play from the goaltending position.
Raycroft posted a .911% last year, whether that was a case of small sample size containing a streak not indicative of his overall quality as a goalie or not is something we could argue separately, but he performed well last season.
Defensively, Vancouver averaged 29.5 SA/G (11th) last season with 991 blocked shots (24th) and 570 takeaways (14th)
Toronto averaged 29.8 SA/G (13th) with 1218 blocks (7th) and 579 takeaways (13th)
So yes, the difference in GAA between the two teams was clearly in the different quality of goaltending they received: Vancouver .910 (14th), Toronto .892 (30th)
hockeylover
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Still have no ****ing idea how you reach that conclusion.