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JaysCyYoung said:
And how exactly are those six players going to get enough minutes to accomplish that?
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I dunno. Vancouver's got some pretty crappy depth up front. 3 defensemen on the PP?

They probably won't get that (as mentioned, Bieksa will likely be gone), which brings the total down to 160, plus whatever O'Brien can get (like 8 or 10, I guess).

But hey, Chicago's defensemen got 188 points last year, so it's not out of the question for Vancouver's to get 190, right? I mean, one team has to lead the league in points from the blueline.
 
I dunno. Vancouver's got some pretty crappy depth up front. 3 defensemen on the PP?
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Vancouver had six forwards that scored at least 25 goals last season, two that scored over 30, and two that scored 29 goals apiece (giving them close to four forwards with at least 40 goals). Only Washington approached that level of production up front in the entire league.

They probably won't get that (as mentioned, Bieksa will likely be gone), which brings the total down to 160, plus whatever O'Brien can get (like 8 or 10, I guess).
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150-160 points is a lot more likely than 190.

But hey, Chicago's defensemen got 188 points last year, so it's not out of the question for Vancouver's to get 190, right? I mean, one team has to lead the league in points from the blueline.
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Well, Chicago also happened to have the Norris Trophy winner in Keith, two Canadian Olympians in Keith and Seabrook, and another player that had received a top five nomination for the Norris Trophy in the preceding two seasons (Campbell) patrolling the back-end. That's pretty stellar. Vancouver doesn't have the top-end quality that Chicago possessed and still possesses with more minutes going to Hjalmarsson.
 
But hey, Chicago's defensemen got 188 points last year, so it's not out of the question for Vancouver's to get 190, right? I mean, one team has to lead the league in points from the blueline.
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Chicago scored that many points for 2 reasons, but primarily 1.

Duncan Keith score 69 points last year.

Aside from that, B Campbell would be the best offensive defender on Vancouver and he's a distant 2nd to Keith.

Chicago is an actually an excellent illustration of what it requires to score that many points from the blueline, you just can't do it by committee, your top 2-3 guys have to score a truck load of points.

Keith-Campbell-Seabrook scores 138 of those 188 points. In your break down you have Edler & Ehrhoff scoring 90 or so. Guys on the back end of the 6 man rotation usually don't get the type of opportunity to make up a significant amount of points that the top 3 aren't getting.

160 though, is about where I would beg that Vancouver group next year.
 
They had 171 last year. Obviously it depends what they do with Bieksa, but they should get about the same as last year if they aren't more unlucky than last year.
 
Depends really, they're going to be replacing minutes played by the superior offensive guys like Salo & Bieksa for guys who usually come in around ~25 points a year in Hamhuis & Ballard.

Ballard has scored 34 in a season before, and Hamhuis has the potential to reach 40, but both will be fighting for offensive opportunity behind Ehrhoff & Edler
 
MindzEye said:
Depends really, they're going to be replacing minutes played by the superior offensive guys like Salo & Bieksa for guys who usually come in around ~25 points a year in Hamhuis & Ballard.

Ballard has scored 34 in a season before, and Hamhuis has the potential to reach 40, but both will be fighting for offensive opportunity behind Ehrhoff & Edler
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But then they're also replacing time spend by guys like Willie Mitchell, and presumably if they can, they'll cut down on O'Brien's minutes. And Bieksa only had 22 in 55 games last year.

Odds are they're close to last year. And they do have the depth that even if Salo goes down in game 2 and has to miss the whole season, they really won't miss his offense too much.

The main point is that they're D, even if lacking the star power name up front, has lots of talent. They were 5th in points from the blueline last year, and I don't see them as having gotten worse.
 
The guy has a good opportunity here to play some minutes. Unless of course his agent is pulling the pay me by potential routine and asking for the moon
 
HL23 @NortonSports Any updates on Leafs' progress with Bill Sweatt?

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NortonSports Nothing of note.

NortonSports is Scott Norton, Sweatt's agent.
 
MindzEye said:
Happened on 881 maybe 2-3 klicks from 63, as we get our hands on more details it seems like the guy who was driving the car Vik was in, was being a ****ing idiot....or at the least, did something incredibly stupid.
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Brutal. Very sorry to hear that you lost a friend.
 
Artnes said:
Imagine the feeling of showing up to practice and the place being packed with people.

Most can't get this type of astmosphere on a good night let alone during practice.

It must be a surreal feeling playing for teams like the Leafs and Habs.
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My girlfriend used to go to the Pens training camp all the time when Armstrong was still there. She figures there were usually around like 4,000 or 5,000 people. Probably not quite what the Habs and Leafs get, but pretty decent.
 
hockeylover said:
HL23 @NortonSports Any updates on Leafs' progress with Bill Sweatt?

Direct Message (My Inbox):
NortonSports Nothing of note.

NortonSports is Scott Norton, Sweatt's agent.
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Are you the best connected hockey fan on twitter?? Serious question....but you seem to have everyone who is anyone in the hockey world on your twitter list and they actually ****ing respond to you.

I take it back

HL = backbone
 
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