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"The very available Simon Gagne is a poor fit for the Maple Leafs for a number of reasons: 1) His salary is too high; 2) He’s not a centre; 3) The Flyers are looking for prospects or draft picks and the Leafs can’t afford to give away either; 4) He’s the wrong age at 30 ..."

http://www.torontosun.com/sports/columnists/steve_simmons/2010/07/17/14747431.html

Simmons is a dumbass.

How many times does Burke need to say he's looking at a winger? God, how do these people have jobs?
 
hockeylover said:
"The very available Simon Gagne is a poor fit for the Maple Leafs for a number of reasons: 1) His salary is too high; 2) He’s not a centre; 3) The Flyers are looking for prospects or draft picks and the Leafs can’t afford to give away either; 4) He’s the wrong age at 30 ..."

http://www.torontosun.com/sports/columnists/steve_simmons/2010/07/17/14747431.html

Simmons is a dumbass.

How many times does Burke need to say he's looking at a winger? God, how do these people have jobs?
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You're saying he can't have the opinion that the Leafs would be better served by adding a center instead?
 
You're saying he can't have the opinion that the Leafs would be better served by adding a center instead?
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He can have that opinion but it's not one shared by the GM of the team so if he's trying to suggest to Leaf fans that it won't happen because he's not a center, then he's likely wrong.
 
Gagne's a great talent, but the Flyers can't take back any salary. Not sure what we've got to spare they'd want, unless it is a 100% salary dump.
 
Well its not a legitimate argument. No matter whether or not you think the Leafs need a center, they unquestionably need a winger.
 
Just sayin...we have a poor track record with players who had one off excellent campaigns only to come crashing back to earth the following year.

Raycroft....
Stempniak....
Setoguchi?
 
They need a winger. But not necessarily an injury-prone 30 year old making $5.25M per season.

I like Gagne, but it is still a legitimate argument.
 
This is true.

However, in this particular case, it is clearly framed as his opinion, not as Burke's opinion, and it is a legitimate argument.
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To me, it's kinda silly as a Toronto sports reporter to sit there and hear "WE WANT A WINGER WE WANT A WINGER WE WANT A WINGER" from the team's GM and then in your next column go out and say "Player X wouldn't be a good fit because he's not a center".

He can have that opinion, it's just a silly one IMO.
 
Volcanologist said:
Gagne's a great talent, but the Flyers can't take back any salary. Not sure what we've got to spare they'd want, unless it is a 100% salary dump.
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Thing is, there are only so many teams that

A) Want him
B) Would be willing to take him without sending a contract back
&
C) He would be willing to waive his NTC to go to


I think we're one of the small handful of teams who could fit all the criteria there.

The Flyers would be putting themselves in the position to potentially be forced to accept significantly less in return than Gagne should be able to fetch if they're not looking to take any NHL contracts back.
 
axlsalinger said:
They need a winger. But not necessarily an injury-prone 30 year old making $5.25M per season.

I like Gagne, but it is still a legitimate argument.
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Yeah, but people are taking issue with Simmons suggesting they don't need a winger, not with Simmons saying Gagne isn't a fit.
 
hockeylover said:
To me, it's kinda silly as a Toronto sports reporter to sit there and hear "WE WANT A WINGER WE WANT A WINGER WE WANT A WINGER" from the team's GM and then in your next column go out and say "Player X wouldn't be a good fit because he's not a center".

He can have that opinion, it's just a silly one IMO.
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You yourself have suggested that Marc Savard would be a better fit than Simon Gagne, something that I happen to agree with.

It is definitely debatable, though, which is my point here. It's not silly at all.
 
It's silly because Gagne being a winger or a center shouldn't be one of the main reasons you don't go after him.

And it's silly because someone who views himself as a credible reporter should be somewhat in touch with what the team is looking for.
 
If a person thinks the Leafs need to add a veteran center, it is relevant because we don't have the cap space to add both a vet up the middle, AND Gagne at $5.25.

I suspect Simmons would also argue that a young team like the Leafs shouldn't add older guys with questions about their health, like Savard OR Gagne.

I don't agree with that, but again, if that is his opinion, it's not an unreasonable point of view.
 
I suspect Simmons would also argue that a young team like the Leafs shouldn't add older guys like Savard OR Gagne.

I don't agree with that, but again, if that is his opinion, it's not an unreasonable point of view.
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I don't agree either and think it IS an unreasonable point of view. It'd be stupid to suggest one of the youngest teams in the league shouldn't add a single 30-32 year old elite forward.
 
You're stretching it there axl.

Simmons flat out said Gagne is not a good fit because "he is not a center."

And that is dumb.

Also since when is it impossible for an opinion to be unreasonable, dumb, or wrong.

I think the earth is flat.
 
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