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I too believe that he's had a deal in his pocket for a while now. He IS using the media to try and up the bid, but he's already got something that he likes.
 
BG said:
I too believe that he's had a deal in his pocket for a while now. He IS using the media to try and up the bid, but he's already got something that he likes.
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that or the less likely he has very little and is grasping at straws.....but im 90% on your level of thinking.
 
Clowe + 1st wouldn't be the worst offer ever, but I won't pull the trigger on that one neither.

I like Clowe a lot, I just don't think him + a late 1st is gonna be good enough for Kaberle. I wouldn't settle for anything less than a young top line forward, or a bluechip prospect who has very good potential to be a top line forward + a pick.
 
number17 said:
Clowe + 1st wouldn't be the worst offer ever, but I won't pull the trigger on that one neither.

I like Clowe a lot, I just don't think him + a late 1st is gonna be good enough for Kaberle. I wouldn't settle for anything less than a young top line forward, or a bluechip prospect who has very good potential to be a top line forward + a pick.
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Burke does not want a prospect.
 
number17 said:
Clowe + 1st wouldn't be the worst offer ever, but I won't pull the trigger on that one neither.

I like Clowe a lot, I just don't think him + a late 1st is gonna be good enough for Kaberle. I wouldn't settle for anything less than a young top line forward, or a bluechip prospect who has very good potential to be a top line forward + a pick.
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As a sharks fan I would love that trade
get her done doug wilson!
 
LeafGm said:
I don't think he has while in Toronto. But I do remember him repeatedly swearing up and down to the press while he was in Anaheim that there was no truth to the rumours that he'd be leaving Anaheim to accept the GM job in Toronto.
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Yeah that was total horseshit on his part.
 
So apparently, in my absence today there was a partial invasion by a HFboards member.

Either that, or Vito from woodbridge couldn't get a cellphone signal where he was and learned about the internets.


On to business though. If Clowe + 1st is the best offer we've received so far, and 2 offers have gotten significantly better over the weekend (neither of those are guaranteed to be the Clowe + offer)...for **** sakes, apologize to Kaberle and start extension talks. Unless if something substantial changes over the next 4 days, we're not getting the type of player in return for him that makes it worth opening that hole up in our blueline.

The difference between a 35-45 pt forward (some of which are still available in the FA market, and at the least are pretty easily available through trade) and a 55 point forward like Clowe is negligible, regardless of style of play.

The difference between Kaberle QBing our PP and Gunner doing it is significant.
 
hockeyanalysis Agent Rick Curran talks to the media about Kaberle not liking being front page news and in doing so he made Kaberle front page news.
 
i'm not sure where the hypocrisy is. he's already front and centre because of burke; curran was just expressing the fact that the public posturing has bothered kaberle.
 
i'm not sure where the hypocrisy is. he's already front and centre because of burke; curran was just expressing the fact that the public posturing has bothered kaberle.
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I don't really agree that he's front and center because of Burke - you'd have this regardless because of the nature of his NTC. Everyone and their dog knows you have just over a month to trade him - of course the speculation is going to be crazy in this city. It was with Cliff as the GM as well.

And yeah, I do find it kind of ironic that Curran is mad Kaberle's on the front page but his comments are drawing even more attention to the situation.

People act sometimes like Burke is sitting on his front lawn giving quotes to passersby; I'm not sure how you can blame him for telling reporters he's listening. This is how it is in this city.
 
Kaberle might not like be front page news, but he must be atleast used it after playing for us for this long?
 
no, it isn't how it is.

burke makes it that way. quinn never openly mused about things he was considering as far as personnel was concerned. burke either overestimates his ability to manipulate through the media, or just likes hearing himself talk. and it's bad policy, imo.

i think it's very telling that far and away the best move he has made was one that was kept very, very close to the vest.

and i think kaberle is well within his right to be upset about how burke has handled the situation. and curran stating that isn't really ironic at all. it's only ironic if you think he means that kaberle doesn't like media attention, period. that isn't what he meant at all, though. if kaberle so intensely disliked media attention he wouldn't want to stay in toronto so badly. it's the type of media attention in this instance that is the problem.
 
no, it isn't how it is.

burke makes it that way. quinn never openly mused about things he was considering as far as personnel was concerned. burke either overestimates his ability to manipulate through the media, or just likes hearing himself talk. and it's bad policy, imo.

i think it's very telling that far and away the best move he has made was one that was kept very, very close to the vest.

and i think kaberle is well within his right to be upset about how burke has handled the situation. and curran stating that isn't really ironic at all. it's only ironic if you think he means that kaberle doesn't like media attention, period. that isn't what he meant at all, though. if kaberle so intensely disliked media attention he wouldn't want to stay in toronto so badly. it's the type of media attention in this instance that is the problem.
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This exact same thing happened while Burke was in Anaheim and Cliff was the GM. Perhaps he should say no comment, but my guess is that speculation would run even more rampant and would have no basis in fact.

I do find it strange that Curran went to the media to tell them his client was upset with the media coverage, but supposedly never told Burke.
 
it is neither.

unless you misconstrue what curran is talking about.

i think most athletes would be extremely uncomfortable with the situation, entirely because of burke.

especially when these guys have wives, and kids that are established in the community. to some extent professional athletes are commodities but that doesn't mean you have to treat them as such. and, really, this isn't out of character for burke at all. let's not forget about what he did to peter zezel.
 
This exact same thing happened while Burke was in Anaheim and Cliff was the GM. Perhaps he should say no comment, but my guess is that speculation would run even more rampant and would have no basis in fact.
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cliff's posturing in the media to try and coerce sundin and kaberle into waiving their ntc's was an utter disaster on a whole bunch of fronts.
 
Burke loves the sound of his own voice.

It can be a problem at times.

But it doesn't have to be that way. For example AA never talks about players or trades. Even with all the Doc stuff, where everyone and their mother knew he was moving, he wouldn't comment on negotiations or potential deals or anything.
 
Perhaps then Curran should've approached Burke in the past 42 days and told him that his client was unhappy instead of going to the media with it.
 
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