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habs25th said:
That said if no one knew who he was you'd probably be talking about the pros and cons of this trade right now.
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Because it's August and we're all so ****ing bored that we're at each others throats on a daily basis.

The Kaberle soap opera is all we really have to talk about right now. Even after I called BS I broke down the pros and cons of the trade. There's nothing else leaf related to talk about.
 
There's nothing else hockey related to talk about.
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Fixed that for ya.

It's just there's been NO NHL or hockey news of any sort to talk about pretty much after July 3rd, with the exception of the Kovalchuk ordeal ... but that one's SO beaten to death the media doesn't even bother talking about it now even though Kovy is an "UFA".

I guess this is the new NHL. There are still good players on the market but with the cap, many teams are capped out, and prefer to go with younger players to plug their holes instead of handing out any more contracts to UFAs.

Then there are teams that are taking their time ... like if you look at the Ducks, it's almost mid August, training camp starts in under a month and they still only got 3 NHL dmen under contract, Bobby Ryan remains unsigned, and they don't seem to have any urgency whatsoever.
 
Hey everyone,

Sorry for last night. I was a bit immature for the way I acted with the aftermath, mostly because I didn't think it would spread out of control the way it did. Didn't mean to act like a jerk about it, but alas, I did. Hope we can let bygones be bygones.
 
DarrenDreger

I'm back. Sort of. Leafs says deals are improving, but there is nothing on the table they're willing to accept for Kaberle. Tick Tock.
 
MindzEye said:
Isn't Jeffler the same guy who did, if I remember correctly, a spectacular analysis of the Kulemin RFA situation a few months ago?

Dude, you're above tricks like this, even if there was a point behind it. Besides that, it would have been a more meaningful experiment if it had been a completely anonymous twitter account. This doesn't determine how many people are willing to run with a bogus rumour, it determines how many people used to trust you.
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Exactly!
If I post a fake rumour on Twitter not one person would believe it and then I could claim that nobody is gullible.

If Bobby Mac posts a fake rumour you'd have millions of people quoting it as gospel.

Like you said, this experiment only shows how many people trust said poster... and while doing so destroys his credibility among a large portion of his "followers."
 
Jeffler said:
*shrug* If you guys see it this way, I apologize. Didn't mean to hurt feelings. I figured the fact that me reporting a rumour an hour after saying I was going to make one up, 6 hours after bashing people for believing every tweet they see, and after many times of saying I'm not an insider, it wouldn't be taken seriously by anyone other than those I was trying to make an example of.

And it was called forumicefail because the others were under fail, it was just an easy way to organize them at the time.
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You assume that people read every word you say.

If right now I tell you that I love Ovechkin and think he's greatest player in the league and possibly ever... would you believe that I feel that way? You probably would, why not? Of course you haven't read all my posts claiming that I believe Crosby is the best player in the league. So does that mean you're an idiot or gullible for believing that I actually thought Ovechkin was the best?
 
DarrenDreger

One team presented an interesting offer. A player and a pick IF Kaberle signs an ext. If Kaberle becomes a ufa, the Leafs send a pick back. BTW. I was told Toronto declined that offer.
 
http://www.torontosun.com/sports/hockey/2010/08/13/15021166.html

“(A deal) could be for a futures’ package, a high draft pick and a quality young player,” Burke said, adding the Leafs just might open camp in a few weeks with the roster that was re-vamped at the draft, featuring newcomers Kris Versteeg and Colby Armstrong.

Asked by Sun Media if he was lowering his sights with Kaberle as midnight Sunday approaches, Burke replied: “We will trade the player if we get an offer that makes sense.”

Getting a draft pick or picks in return for Kaberle would be a popular move in many quarters with so many fans still sore at Burke for perceived over-spending on Phil Kessel (two firsts and a second to Boston). The addition of second overall Tyler Seguin to the Bruins’ attack might alone end up being the difference in that club getting ahead of the Leafs in April.

But seeking a draft package would certainly open the Kaberle market up a bit. The short list of clubs interested in him include New Jersey and Los Angeles, each trying to put the pieces back together for an Ilya Kovalchuk deal in the next few days.
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If Burke trades him for futures, obviously we would have to use that cap space on getting another forward from somewhere.
 
The popular phrase used this offseason by Burke, media and fans is the need to add 'top 6' forwards. Everyone needs to be more specific though. The Leafs don't need #4-6 forwards, they need #1-3 forwards.

The Leafs already have plenty of guys capable of scoring at a 2nd line rate this season -- Bozak, Kadri, Versteeg, Kulemin, Grabovski. But they really only have one player with frontline, 1st line scoring potential -- Kessel.

They won't take the next step unless they add legit frontline talent -- or guys like Kadri, Bozak develop into these type of guys.
 
mirtle

Burke's response when asked if presence of Mitchell, Bieksa (and others) as available defencemen is making a Kaberle trade more difficult? "This is not to disparage those players you mentioned, but you're not talking about a player that's even close to Kaberle's skill level." Burke on Kaberle: "He's the Cadillac in the group. And he's a good person and he's at a good price."

RealKyper

If these so called interested teams don't step up offers dramatically between now and Sunday midnite, Kaberle's area code will remain 416
 
Jeffler said:
Hey everyone,

Sorry for last night. I was a bit immature for the way I acted with the aftermath, mostly because I didn't think it would spread out of control the way it did. Didn't mean to act like a jerk about it, but alas, I did. Hope we can let bygones be bygones.
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Keep doing strong work on your blog (like the Kulemin piece that introduced me to your existence) and we're good.
 
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