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The Devils aren't giving up a 1st to get rid of Zubrus anyways. Those deals always sound good but they never actually happen.
 
leafman101 said:
Malakhov and a 1st to San Jose.
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Ahhh.... I forgot about that trade. I still don't see it happening though. As bad as the Zubrus contract may be, he's still somewhat useful and his contract isn't nearly as bad as Malakhov's deal was if I recall correctly.
 
We should target Elias or Langenbrunner. Preferably Langenbrunner, he makes our top 6 look much nicer. He'll probably be the toughest of those four (Zubrus, Rolston, Elias, Langenbrunner) to get because I'm guessing he's the one Lou least wants to trade. And there will likely be a fairly good market for him.
 
I think trading for Langenbrunner will be very difficult since he has a a reasonable contract and is very servicable. i could see many teams trying to acquire him. If Lou trades him any team will probably have to trade a solid prospect and a second rounder.

Watch Burke trade for salvador lol.
 
The problems with Langenbrunner:
1. He's not too expensive
2. He has a NTC
3. He's old (his next contract will be a 35+ one)
4. He only has one year left on his deal

Really, I don't see why you guys would want him. If you did trade for him, you'd need to sign him to an extension otherwise it makes no sense getting a UFA-to-be. And do you really want to commit to him for another few years? He should still be fine, but it's a risk. Not sure if it's worth giving up more prospects for a guy like him.

That's also dependant on him being willing to waive his NTC to go to Toronto. Sure, he might have a history with Burke, but your team is not exactly the #1 place for an old guy with 1 year left. I'm pretty sure he wouldn't go to TO unless if he got an extension, which brings up back to the points above.

And then you also have to consider that you guys are also right up against the cap. As it is now, you're actually over the cap. Finger will save you 3.5M, but that only brings you under the cap due to the bonus cushion. Really, at this point, waiving Finger you're probably maxed out in cap space. So if you bring in Langenbrunner, you'd need to move out another salary.

And it all comes back to whether NJ would actually move him. As mentioned, he's not expensive. Cut Zubrus and replace him with a league min guy, and they're still a tiny bit over. They might be able to wiggle around enough to make do.

And that's all assuming they can't trade Elias or Rolston. Someone might be tempted to take Rolston along with a 1st round pick.
 
I'm not really worried about the "he's old" part. Our oldest forward is 28 and he plays 6 minutes a game. Most of our forwards are 25 and under.

Look, we need another good forward and Langenbrunner would likely be our 2nd highest producing forward. I think you go for it. As far as the NTC goes, well, I think there's a higher chance for Langenbrunner waiving for Toronto than just any random player given his familiarity with both Burke and Wilson.

I don't see why he'd need an extension to waive. He can hit UFA and cash in.
 
No one in their right mind would take Rolston.

Just like Zubrus.

The question is do they want to move Langenbrunner or Elias. We'll take either.
 
hockeylover said:
I'm not really worried about the "he's old" part. Our oldest forward is 28 and he plays 6 minutes a game. Most of our forwards are 25 and under.

Look, we need another good forward and Langenbrunner would likely be our 2nd highest producing forward. I think you go for it. As far as the NTC goes, well, I think there's a higher chance for Langenbrunner waiving for Toronto than just any random player given his familiarity with both Burke and Wilson.

I don't see why he'd need an extension to waive. He can hit UFA and cash in.
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But why would he waive to go to Toronto for one year? I do think the connection with Burke would make him more willing to go to Toronto than most other places, but if he only has one year left, wouldn't he rather just not bother waiving and stay with NJ?

If Toronto were a cup contender, then I could see him waiving for another chance at glory. But why put yourself through a likely non-playoff season when you can instead play for NJ, who is a serious cup contender?

And the bigger question, even if he would waive to go to Toronto, is it really worth giving up serious assets for him? We have no clue about the asking price, but again, if he's actually worth something, why would you guys give up those assets for a UFA to be? Sure, if he comes basically free, it'd be worth it for you guys, since he wouldn't really be taking space away from anyone good, but what if they ask for some of your decent prospects in return?
 
But why would he waive to go to Toronto for one year? I do think the connection with Burke would make him more willing to go to Toronto than most other places, but if he only has one year left, wouldn't he rather just not bother waiving and stay with NJ?
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Simon Gagne waived his NTC for for a non-cup contender for a year and his team made it to the finals last season... I would think he'd see the writing on the wall. His team's over the cap - someone has to go and quite a few players have NTCs.
 
but what if they ask for some of your decent prospects in return?
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Depends on who really. In general, it's probably a good idea to go after a two-time cup winning 60 point guy though, given our need for offense.
 
BergerFAN590

Brian Burke today: "No additions likely. Barring something miraculous, we're going into the season with this group."
 
That's not news really ... we all know everything can change with a phone call, and there WILL BE opportunities with a few teams still over the cap, and a bunch of RFAs still unsigned.
 
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