Leaf Rumours
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MindzEye
Wayward Ditch Pig
Arnott for cheap would be a coup....would give us pretty much exactly what we need up front.
Kulemin-Bozak-Kessel
Versteeg-Arnott-MacA
Armstrong-Grabo-Shoey
Brown-Zigo/Hanson-Orr
It would work for Jersey as well because Elias can slot in at centre and they can move
Parise-Zajac-Kovy
XXXX-Elias-Langenbrunner
XXXX-Zubrus-Clarkson
With whoever they need to plug in filling the XXXX roll until Rolston is back. They could use Josefson, Pelley, etc.
Kulemin-Bozak-Kessel
Versteeg-Arnott-MacA
Armstrong-Grabo-Shoey
Brown-Zigo/Hanson-Orr
It would work for Jersey as well because Elias can slot in at centre and they can move
Parise-Zajac-Kovy
XXXX-Elias-Langenbrunner
XXXX-Zubrus-Clarkson
With whoever they need to plug in filling the XXXX roll until Rolston is back. They could use Josefson, Pelley, etc.
LeafGm
Well-known member
I like Arnott, but I don't see that move happening. For one, it's a little to early in the season for us to be taking on his cap hit---I think it'd have to be a bit later in the season for the Leafs to be able to comfortably accomodate his cap hit. As well, frankly, I don't think you're going to see Lamoriello make any salary dump moves to get out of salary cap hell. He'll pull every single kind of shady roster/injury list type tactic he can think of to stay under the cap, and will somehow get away scott free and get to keep everybody he's got.
MindzEye
Wayward Ditch Pig
We could accommodate it now and still have about 400K left.
That's a real possibility, but I think there is a limit to the dirty tricks even he can pull out without ramifications.
This would be a just before, or just after Burke's personal Christmas deadline move imo....and before that happens, I full expect to see Hanson, Caputi, & Kadri worked into the lineup (due to injuries, or replacing Zigo/Brent...whatever) to see if they can contribute. It will also depend on where we are in the standings...if we're in the playoff picture, but the offence is sputtering, that type of move bringing in a short term, veteran character guy would be a Burke type move.
That's a real possibility, but I think there is a limit to the dirty tricks even he can pull out without ramifications.
This would be a just before, or just after Burke's personal Christmas deadline move imo....and before that happens, I full expect to see Hanson, Caputi, & Kadri worked into the lineup (due to injuries, or replacing Zigo/Brent...whatever) to see if they can contribute. It will also depend on where we are in the standings...if we're in the playoff picture, but the offence is sputtering, that type of move bringing in a short term, veteran character guy would be a Burke type move.
MyNameIsJonas
Well-known member
I really hope you're not trying to suggest Jiggy for Carter straight up.
JaysCyYoung
Legend
Philadelphia is not going to trade for Giguere anyways so it seems like pointless conjecture to keep recommending that type of deal.
BeLeafer
Well-known member
They always need goaltending badly and always go cheap when getting it. Look no further than the desperate situation they were in last year and what did they do? They acquired AHL journeyman Leighton.
They will not be going after a guy with Giguere's price tag, even for a few months.
They will not be going after a guy with Giguere's price tag, even for a few months.
MyNameIsJonas
Well-known member
they saw it appropraite to wait until the last game of the season to clinch a playoff spot and rode 2 homeless goalies to do it.
and you think they make the leap from that, to dealing Carter for Giggy.
These guys declined to do Carter for Vokoun last year.
and you think they make the leap from that, to dealing Carter for Giggy.
These guys declined to do Carter for Vokoun last year.
MyNameIsJonas
Well-known member
or Vokoun at the deadline when Florida is out of it
Volcanologist
Well-known member
If the Flyers are going to trade for a Leaf goalie, they might rather have Gustavsson. Giggy is expensive.
number17
Mod Squad
- If the Leafs call up Reimer or Rynnas (a long shot at this point) then I'll believe there's any truth to Gusto / Giguere rumor. Till then, the Leafs are not moving either goalie. Giggy's had a solid (not great, but solid) start to the season and it's about, what, 7 years? since last time the Leafs had stability in goal. Burke won't take that chance trading either goalie anytime soon, especially if we remain in the playoff picture.
- Richards ... I think the first thing Burke would ask himself is if Richards is even a good fit on this team. When 4 of his top 6 going forward will be Kessel, Bozak, Kadri and Versteeg, grabbing another skilled but smallish forward doesn't sound like a great plan - especially on Burke's team. Hockey media loves rumors, and it's easy to come up with Leafs - Ducks or Leafs - Stars rumors, but I don't see it happening.
- Arnott would be easier on the cap hit if he is traded later on in the season, but that's exactly the reason why it'd be cheaper to trade for him now. When Salvador comes off the IR (in ~ 2-3 more weeks) the Devils will HAVE TO do something. Arnott wouldn't be very high on Lou's list to trade, as he's still a useful 2nd line center with ~ 20G, 50-60Pts production. But he's actually tradeable, unlike Rolston or Zubrus. Arnott would have some trade value, but it shouldn't take too much to land him NOW. Not too many teams have $4.5M in cap space. Again, would Burke rent a 36 year old veteran? Or would he pony up and make a bigger trade?
- I'm a big believer of having a big and physical center, if nothing else just for the defensive role when the puck is in our own zone. But I think Wilson and Burke are fine with Bozak / Kadri as their #1 and #2, and leans towards bigger wingers. I think ultimately Burke will make another bold move to bring in a youngish power winger ... someone like a Neal or Benn.
- Richards ... I think the first thing Burke would ask himself is if Richards is even a good fit on this team. When 4 of his top 6 going forward will be Kessel, Bozak, Kadri and Versteeg, grabbing another skilled but smallish forward doesn't sound like a great plan - especially on Burke's team. Hockey media loves rumors, and it's easy to come up with Leafs - Ducks or Leafs - Stars rumors, but I don't see it happening.
- Arnott would be easier on the cap hit if he is traded later on in the season, but that's exactly the reason why it'd be cheaper to trade for him now. When Salvador comes off the IR (in ~ 2-3 more weeks) the Devils will HAVE TO do something. Arnott wouldn't be very high on Lou's list to trade, as he's still a useful 2nd line center with ~ 20G, 50-60Pts production. But he's actually tradeable, unlike Rolston or Zubrus. Arnott would have some trade value, but it shouldn't take too much to land him NOW. Not too many teams have $4.5M in cap space. Again, would Burke rent a 36 year old veteran? Or would he pony up and make a bigger trade?
- I'm a big believer of having a big and physical center, if nothing else just for the defensive role when the puck is in our own zone. But I think Wilson and Burke are fine with Bozak / Kadri as their #1 and #2, and leans towards bigger wingers. I think ultimately Burke will make another bold move to bring in a youngish power winger ... someone like a Neal or Benn.
Volcanologist
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A 90 point #1 centre is a great fit on this team. It's exactly what we need and would be a major shift for the Leafs' lineup if we were lucky enough to get him.
If the Leafs can get a player like that without giving up Kadri or Schenn, they've got to be all over it.
Unless, of course, you know of any 6"4 power forward centres that might be available. I can't think of any, personally.
If the Leafs can get a player like that without giving up Kadri or Schenn, they've got to be all over it.
Unless, of course, you know of any 6"4 power forward centres that might be available. I can't think of any, personally.
PlayerToBeNamedLater
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Size is overrated for forwards, it's a much more important quality for defensemen. As long as a forward plays gritty, it doesn't matter all that much if he's 6'0 or 6'2.
The problem with the Leafs forward core isn't size or grittyness. It's a lack of 1st line talent -- as Pep said above. The Leafs have 1 legit 1st line talent. And when you're dressing two lines with zero offensive ability -- there's a lot of pressure put on 1 or 2 key guys to score.
Richards would be a great addition. And he's exactly the type of player the Leafs need. With Kessel, along with the additions of Kadri and Richards, you now have the makings of a 1st line with 1st line ability. And guys like Bozak, Versteeg, Kulemin can be moved into their proper roles on the 2nd line instead of pretending they're 1st liners.
The problem with the Leafs forward core isn't size or grittyness. It's a lack of 1st line talent -- as Pep said above. The Leafs have 1 legit 1st line talent. And when you're dressing two lines with zero offensive ability -- there's a lot of pressure put on 1 or 2 key guys to score.
Richards would be a great addition. And he's exactly the type of player the Leafs need. With Kessel, along with the additions of Kadri and Richards, you now have the makings of a 1st line with 1st line ability. And guys like Bozak, Versteeg, Kulemin can be moved into their proper roles on the 2nd line instead of pretending they're 1st liners.
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Hoss
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anyone catch burke on the watters show??
he said that in the last few days, he has gotten some serious "hits" on the trade front. He said everyonce and a while you get nibbles, but he has actually gotten hits, enough to call in the team (nonis et al) to discuss things.
He mentioned this after he talked about sending Finger down was to have that money available....
on the hotstove they talked about how Chiarelli has already been making contact to get things done before Sturm and Savard come back, I am sure Lam has done the same things.
Maybe a trade for Arnott is available.
he said that in the last few days, he has gotten some serious "hits" on the trade front. He said everyonce and a while you get nibbles, but he has actually gotten hits, enough to call in the team (nonis et al) to discuss things.
He mentioned this after he talked about sending Finger down was to have that money available....
on the hotstove they talked about how Chiarelli has already been making contact to get things done before Sturm and Savard come back, I am sure Lam has done the same things.
Maybe a trade for Arnott is available.