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Leaf Rumours

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Ducks

Anaheim Ducks GM Bob Murray previous hinted that he'd be open to some huge shakeups. And he reiterated that again. After speaking with Murray, ESPN.com's Pierre LeBrun writes, "The message from Murray is simple: The coach isn't going anywhere, so the players have to play better, or else there might be trades."

And, as LeBrun writes, Murray is aggressive when it comes to trades: "He's not scared to make one. I know from talking to other teams that Murray has been busy on the phone over the past few weeks. If the Ducks don't start winning, you might see a move or two before the end of November."

Now, there are rumors that Paul Mara is available on the market. But the big speculation is whether guys like Bobby Ryan, Ryan Getzlaf and Corey Perry are potential trade targets, as well. While the Ducks would love to bolster their blueline, at this point, Murray might just be looking for any kind of deal to shake up the deal -- especially if this losing continues.
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Backes:

Talks between the St. Louis Blues and David Backes may have stalled, and nothing might happen until 2011. However, we do know the Blues made at least one multi-year offer -- and that offer was rejected, TrueHockey.com reports.

Of course, we have no idea what that offer looked like. But it's possible Backes is looking for a deal upwards of $5 million a year, which might be a bit steep for the Blues.

There are also some speculation that Backes could hit the trade market if the Blues and Backes are obviously far apart in negotiation. But the Blues will probably wait on any kind of serious trade talks until later in the year.
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Kaberle

Tomas Kaberle's name resurfaces in trade rumors last week, with a report saying the New Jersey Devils might've asked about him. However, Kaberle's agent, Rick Curran, tells ESPN.com's Pierre LeBrun, "There's no reason for any talk to commence. ... My understanding of the situation is that unless we were to initiate conversation, then there shouldn't be one."

Curran says that because Leafs GM Brian Burke has said, time and time again, that he won't ask Kaberle to waive his no-trade clause. That means Burke is probably not bringing up Kaberle in trade discussions unless, of course, other GMs are bringing up Kaberle's name.

But if everyone is telling the truth here, the only way the Leafs discuss Kaberle trades is if the player himself asks for a trade.
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Curran says that because Leafs GM Brian Burke has said, time and time again, that he won't ask Kaberle to waive his no-trade clause. That means Burke is probably not bringing up Kaberle in trade discussions unless, of course, other GMs are bringing up Kaberle's name.

But if everyone is telling the truth here, the only way the Leafs discuss Kaberle trades is if the player himself asks for a trade.
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All of which is fine...provided the intention is to re-sign him. If that is not their intention, then I'm not sure what they gain by letting him walk at the end of the season.
 
Volcanologist said:
All of which is fine...provided the intention is to re-sign him. If that is not their intention, then I'm not sure what they gain by letting him walk at the end of the season.
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Burke mentioned in an article earlier in the year that in a cap world, losing a player for nothing is sometimes better than a trade because you free up cap space and that has value. In this case, 4.25 mill if Kaberle walks.

Now, you can certaintly argue that you won't be able find a player like Kaberle for 4.25 mill, but lets say the Leafs use that 4.25 mill (along with other money) to sign a Richards or Semin -- then it makes more sense.
 
if you are out of it by the deadline
ideally you trade kaberle for picks/prospects if you intend on letting him walk
 
Yes, and I don't think Burke is saying he intentionally lets pending UFA's walk away for no return ... in fact, if you look at the fact he traded Antropov and Poni over the last 2 trade deadlines, it shows he does want to get something out of UFA's he's not gonna re-sign.

I think what he's saying is worse comes to worst, Kaberle walks away with no compensation, he still recoups the $4.25M in cap space, which is huge in the cap world.
 
PlayerToBeNamedLater said:
Burke mentioned in an article earlier in the year that in a cap world, losing a player for nothing is sometimes better than a trade because you free up cap space and that has value. In this case, 4.25 mill if Kaberle walks.
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With Giguere, I can see that argument.

With Kaberle, I can't.

You don't just get cap space, you lose an additional 50-60 points of offence as well by letting him go. Offence that now has to be replaced on top of signing the forward we needed anyway. That doesn't make us better, IMO.
 
I agree. You'll never replace Kaberle's production for that salary.

I understand the point Burke is making, and cap space is often forgotten in trades and UFA's leaving. But with this situation it won't mean that much.
 
People thought trading Kaberle for a 1st line forward would make the team better.

So letting him walk and using that space towards signing a guy like Semin or Richards would be the same thing.
 
People also thought Versteeg was going to get 70 points. The offensive situation might be a little more dire than it appeared back in August.
 
Now, you can certaintly argue that you won't be able find a player like Kaberle for 4.25 mill, but lets say the Leafs use that 4.25 mill (along with other money) to sign a Richards or Semin -- then it makes more sense.
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Thing is, we have enough room to sign Richards or Semin without letting Kaberle walk.

We have 3.6 in space right now with Giguere's 6 million likely to be off the books in the summer, as well as the 1.4 million in penalties that we won't be stuck with next season (in all likelihood)

that's 10 million to bring in 1 goalie (likely one of the kids) and sign a forward with, more than enough left with the current 4.25 Tomas makes to re up him with a fair raise thrown in.
 
If Burke won't go beyond 5 years in his contract offers, there's little to no chance of getting a Richards or Semin here.
 
JackBurton said:
If Burke won't go beyond 5 years in his contract offers, there's little to no chance of getting a Richards or Semin here.
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Agreed, Burke has to start getting flexible with his beliefs here. There's no point holding a belief that both puts you at a competitive disadvantage and is within the both the letter and spirit of the rules.
 
Habsy said:
Sergei Berezin says PLEASE!

Thank you.

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