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Just because they don't think they can afford an $8m player, doesn't mean they won't be spending any more money.
 
The question remains if Dallas even makes this trade.

Nieuwendyk is at a tough spot. The team's playing reasonably well and looks like they have a pretty good shot at making the playoff. How do you trade away a forward like Richards in the middle of a playoff run? On the other hand, it's pretty clear Dallas can't afford to sign him after this season, so the question is do you let him walk for nothing (but cap space) or do you trade your best forward in the middle of a playoff run?

Nieuwendyk won't make that decision now. He'll wait till much closer to trade deadline to decide if Richards is even on the block.
 
They have a shit blueline, a fragile goalie and 3 1st line forwards playing over their heads right now.

Even if Richards matches his career season last year, he would be slowing down substantially along the way. Eriksson & Neal as well, are off to unsustainably hot starts by their personal standards.

It's a solid top 6 group overall, but I just don't see how they can stick around in the playoff race out west, it's just too good a conference overall.
 
MindzEye said:
They have a shit blueline, a fragile goalie and 3 1st line forwards playing over their heads right now.

Even if Richards matches his career season last year, he would be slowing down substantially along the way. Eriksson & Neal as well, are off to unsustainably hot starts by their personal standards.

It's a solid top 6 group overall, but I just don't see how they can stick around in the playoff race out west, it's just too good a conference overall.
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I agree with all of that pretty much but I think he would be labeled as killing the run when Dallas's season inevitably goes south following the Richards trade, even though Dallas's chances were very slim without the trade. That said, if it's a Bozak, Gunnar, Reimer and Kulemin coming back as laid out in Zeke's deal? At the very least I am seeing a very solid starting point as the Stars' GM. There's somewhat comparable to the Kovy deal Atlanta got.
 
Cpt. Koivu said:
I agree with all of that pretty much but I think he would be labeled as killing the run when Dallas's season inevitably goes south following the Richards trade, even though Dallas's chances were very slim without the trade. That said, if it's a Bozak, Gunnar, Reimer and Kulemin coming back as laid out in Zeke's deal? At the very least I am seeing a very solid starting point as the Stars' GM. There's somewhat comparable to the Kovy deal Atlanta got.
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That would blow the Kovalchuk trade out of the water.

Which is why I don't think it will cost that much.

Kovalchuk
Salmela

For

Bergfors
Oduya
Patrice Cormier
25th overall

Oduya is a passable 29 yr #4 defender, Cormier a 20 yr old who was sent back to the Q for a 5th go around at it...who at best will turn into an energy line type guy. Bergfors a nice, but small and limited 2nd line calibre forward...and a late 1st.

Atlanta didn't get a lot in that trade at all....and there's no way Richards should get 3 young NHL'ers of that calibre, plus a goalie who would automatically become the Stars goalie of the future.
 
MindzEye said:
That would blow the Kovalchuk trade out of the water.

Which is why I don't think it will cost that much.

Kovalchuk
Salmela

For

Bergfors
Oduya
Patrice Cormier
25th overall

Oduya is a passable 29 yr #4 defender, Cormier a 20 yr old who was sent back to the Q for a 5th go around at it...who at best will turn into an energy line type guy. Bergfors a nice, but small and limited 2nd line calibre forward...and a late 1st.

Atlanta didn't get a lot in that trade at all....and there's no way Richards should get 3 young NHL'ers of that calibre, plus a goalie who would automatically become the Stars goalie of the future.
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as it turns out...the devils got even less out of the deal :p
 
If I'm Burke and I make a trade for Dallas I offer them something liek this for Richards

Gunnarsson
Rynass
2nd rounder

Dallas has an aging D core, and Gunnarsson would add some youth and puckmovent to their back end. Dallas is also iffy in goal, yea Lethonen is a good goalie but hes injury prone, and their main backup is Raycrap, followed up by a potentially elite guy in Jack Campbell but is 3-4 years away. Rynass is ready now. I think this will at least get Dallas to think about pulling the trigger for Richards.
 
worm said:
as it turns out...the devils got even less out of the deal :p
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LOL Devils got raped up the ass for Kovalchuck. Heres what they gave up

Oduya
Cormier
1st rounder
$102M/15 years
$3M fine
1st rounder in one of the next 3 years.

All for a guy who has all of 10 pts in 19 games (43 pt pace for the season). And to think people are going nuts about the Kessel deal, well this one makes the Kessel deal look like childs play in comparsion.
 
they gave up bergfors to.. but all those guys stink.

there's something weird going on in jersey, though. kovalchuk deserves his share of the blame but something's not working there. because it isn't just him.
 
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