Leaf Rumours

[zeke]

paradis will never play an nhl game.

 

[Metalleaf]

If Tim Brent can get some NHL time, so can Paradis.

 

[JaysCyYoung]

I'd bet money that Paradis sees NHL time.

 

[Cpt. Koivu]

You guys found room for Finger's 3.5 million for a whole season, I bet someone finds room for Paradis at couple hundred thousand.

 

[BG]

Some interesting Leafs blurbs in Friedmans '30 thoughts':

http://www.cbc.ca/sports/blogs/elli...-crosbys-scorching-pace-plus-30-thoughts.html

6. Interesting: a few GMs are expecting to see Marco Sturm on waivers pretty soon.

11. A few Leaf fans came to Francois Beauchemin's defence when I labelled him a disappointment in yesterday's blog. Curious to see if San Jose will take a look at him. The Sharks need a defenceman, and a return to the West Coast might be a good fit. The Red Wings raved about him after the 2009 playoff series.

28. Nazem Kadri pulled a Bo Jackson on Saturday night. You never show your frustration to opponents. To his credit, he admitted regretting it.

29. Patrick O'Sullivan is back with Minnesota, which drafted him 56th overall in 2003. Toronto had the 57th selection, and had actually written O'Sullivan's name down on their draft card. When the Wild foiled that plan, they chose John Doherty instead.

 

[number17]

paradis will never play an nhl game.

I dunno why you're so down on Paradis zeke.

I watched Paradis in the junior tourney before training camp, and I saw plenty to like about him. He will not be a 1st liner, and is not a lock to be a 2nd liner neither, but he should make a very good 3rd liner at the very least at some point in his career.

 

[Volcanologist]

I dunno why you're so down on Paradis zeke.

I watched Paradis in the junior tourney before training camp, and I saw plenty to like about him. He will not be a 1st liner, and is not a lock to be a 2nd liner neither, but he should make a very good 3rd liner at the very least at some point in his career.

that's pretty crap for a 1st round pick though. Leaf-like.

 

[Cpt. Koivu]

that's pretty crap for a 1st round pick though. Leaf-like.

Leaf-like? You wish. Your pick was Tlusty. At least Paradis has a hard shot and a good physical game. All Tlusty had was that snapshot of his stick-handling and neither of those are referring to hockey skills.

 

[zeke]

I dunno why you're so down on Paradis zeke.

I watched Paradis in the junior tourney before training camp, and I saw plenty to like about him. He will not be a 1st liner, and is not a lock to be a 2nd liner neither, but he should make a very good 3rd liner at the very least at some point in his career.

very good 3rd liner in the AHL, maybe.

 

[Volcanologist]

Leaf-like? You wish. Your pick was Tlusty. At least Paradis has a hard shot and a good physical game. All Tlusty had was that snapshot of his stick-handling and neither of those are referring to hockey skills.

what are you babbling about?

they both suck.

 

[Goldust]

Goldust predicts that Gunnarsson will be traded.

 

[JaysCyYoung]

that's pretty crap for a 1st round pick though. Leaf-like.

If a 28th overall pick even makes the NHL as a bottom six forward or bottom-pairing defenceman, that's a good use of a draft pick in that position of the draft.

And yes I'm aware that Mike Green was a 29th overall selection, but you're much more likely to end up with Shawn Belle or Paradis at that point in the draft than the Greens or Niklas Kronwalls of the world.

 

[Pronger84]

If a 28th overall pick even makes the NHL as a bottom six forward or bottom-pairing defenceman, that's a good use of a draft pick in that position of the draft.

And yes I'm aware that Mike Green was a 29th overall selection, but you're much more likely to end up with Shawn Belle or Paradis at that point in the draft than the Greens or Niklas Kronwalls of the world.

Players that have been selected in the 1st round, 20-29th overall:

Corey Perry
Nikolas Kronwall
Claude Giroux
Mike Richards
TJ Oshie
Patrik Beguland
Ryan Kesler
John Carlsson
Mike Green
Jeff Schultz

Those are some pretty good to elite players taken in that category of the draft.

 

[UWHabs]

Players that have been selected in the 1st round, 20-29th overall:

Corey Perry
Nikolas Kronwall
Claude Giroux
Mike Richards
TJ Oshie
Patrik Beguland
Ryan Kesler
John Carlsson
Mike Green
Jeff Schultz

Those are some pretty good to elite players taken in that category of the draft.

So 10 out of what? 80? 100? in the timeframe you looked at.

 

[Volcanologist]

If a 28th overall pick even makes the NHL as a bottom six forward or bottom-pairing defenceman, that's a good use of a draft pick in that position of the draft.

And yes I'm aware that Mike Green was a 29th overall selection, but you're much more likely to end up with Shawn Belle or Paradis at that point in the draft than the Greens or Niklas Kronwalls of the world.

I'm aware of the worth of draft picks and the odds in general, but I don't agree with that entirely.

you aren't looking for fringe or easily available types of players with a first round draft choice.

at least, you shouldn't be.

 

[JaysCyYoung]

A 28th overall pick is closer to being a second rounder than it is a first round pick. You're getting caught up in the allure of the term itself, which is a mistake many people succumb to.

 

[Volcanologist]

I'm not getting caught up in anything.

Getting a fringe player in the first round is not cause for contentment in my books.

 

[zeke]

If a 28th overall pick even makes the NHL as a bottom six forward or bottom-pairing defenceman, that's a good use of a draft pick in that position of the draft. .

meh, I'd rather have a high-risk prospect bust than draft a grinder in the first round.

grinders are easy to find.

 

[Cpt. Koivu]

what are you babbling about?

they both suck.

They do both suck but Paradis at 28 is way better than Tlusty at 13. So comparatively, Carolina's drafting did better. Though their pro-scouting could obviously use a bit more work.

 

[zeke]

Tlusty has actually made the NHL and dominated in the AHL.

Paradis has been a mediocre junior player.

How the hell did Carolina draft better?