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Pronger84 said:
You'd have to throw in a bit more then that. If Kabs signs an extension before going to les' habs, the asking price should be Avtsin and a 1st
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I'm talking about the UFA to be Kaberle, you know, a short term fix to Markov's injury.

Honestly, I'd rather give away Avtsin and a first than Pacioretty, fine by me.
 
Metalleaf said:
Thrashers can score but give up a fair amount of goals, they'd probably want a defenseman.
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Well our defensive D are: Schenn, Beauchimen, Komiserak. If we give them Schenn I'd want Bergfors (apparantly this guy was up there in rookie scoring with 21g/44pts) Beauchimen I'd settle for Carl Klinberg (6'3/205lbs, potential powerforward in the making). Komiserak I'd settle for Cormier and a 3rd

I checked out all their propsects online.
 
I'm talking about the UFA to be Kaberle, you know, a short term fix to Markov's injury.

Honestly, I'd rather give away Avtsin and a first than Pacioretty, fine by me.
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Not that interested in Avtsin. It'd have to be better than that for me to let Kaberle go to a division rival.
 
hockeylover said:
Not that interested in Avtsin. It'd have to be better than that for me to let Kaberle go to a division rival.
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I agree, but keep in mind no team is stupid enough to give up valuable assets for a rental player. If we want the farm from the habs, we need to sign Kabs an extension before giftwrapping him and shipping him up the 401.
 
Pronger84 said:
I agree, but keep in mind no team is stupid enough to give up valuable assets for a rental player. If we want the farm from the habs, we need to sign Kabs an extension before giftwrapping him and shipping him up the 401.
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Or how about we don't ship him up the 401 at all. You don't just trade him to a division rival and take whatever. That's silly.
 
Volcanologist said:
If Kaberle is traded it won't be within the division. Any of those teams would have to give up too much for it to happen.
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Not sure why it would matter that Kaberle is traded within the division if he isn't signed past this year. Burke would simply give him to the highest bidder.
 
habs25th said:
Not sure why it would matter that Kaberle is traded within the division if he isn't signed past this year. Burke would simply give him to the highest bidder.
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IMO, I would re-sign him and try like a MFer to ship out Komi. Our top 4 when it was together this year was pretty solid:

Phaneuf Beauchemin
Kaberle Schenn

Then fill out the bottom with Gunnarsson, Aulie, Holzer, etc.

I'm not sure Burke would want Avtsin.
 
Avtsin was P84's proposition. Pacioretty would be a generous return for a UFA Kaberle. It's not like Kaberle is burning the league.
 
habs25th said:
Avtsin was P84's proposition. Pacioretty would be a generous return for a UFA Kaberle. It's not like Kaberle is burning the league.
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Again, I'd just rather keep him than give him to you for Pacioretty and have to face him on your team. But that's just my .02
 
Burke has publiciy admitted to this retool, rebandage, repaint job of this team (call it whatever you want), now he pretty much has to fix this. He needs to decide once and for all is this a quick refix to the promise land or a lenghty rebuild, how he decides will impact on what happens next. If it's Option A, then he needs to make a huge ass blockbuster deal to bring in size and scoring, and **** the future, just go balls in and hope for the best. If it's Option B, then he needs to scrap everything, get rid of 90% of this team, and get as many picks and prospects as he can. Realisticily nobody is safe or should be safe on this team outside of Kessel and possibly Schenn, everyone else IMO should be up for sale.
 
Pronger84 said:
Burke has publiciy admitted to this retool, rebandage, repaint job of this team (call it whatever you want), now he pretty much has to fix this. He needs to decide once and for all is this a quick refix to the promise land or a lenghty rebuild, how he decides will impact on what happens next. If it's Option A, then he needs to make a huge ass blockbuster deal to bring in size and scoring, and **** the future, just go balls in and hope for the best. If it's Option B, then he needs to scrap everything, get rid of 90% of this team, and get as many picks and prospects as he can. Realisticily nobody is safe or should be safe on this team outside of Kessel and possibly Schenn, everyone else IMO should be up for sale.
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This is a stupid ****ing option. Getting rid of young players for picks? Why?
 
If you're going to attempt to stock up on draft picks it makes sense to look at dealing guys such as Beauchemin, Komisarek, or Sjostrom for picks, not the seriously young players in the system who have already demonstrated that they are NHL-quality. That would be counter-productive to the whole mentality that goes into stockpiling picks (the hope of getting a young, cheap NHL player).
 
hockeylover said:
This is a stupid ****ing option. Getting rid of young players for picks? Why?
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I'm saying its an option, people want a "tank rebuild", there ya go, just throwing it out there. Instead of casting blame, I'd love to hear what ideas you have to turn this joke of a season around.
 
Well let's be honest first, Pronger: the season is almost certainly over (at least insofar as making the post-season). The only thing that the Leafs can do at this point is reduction of damage and try to get out of the bottom five so as to not hand Boston a Ryan Murphy, Gabriel Landeskog, Sean Couturier, Ryan-Nugent Hopkins, or Adam Larsson. That's about all you can expect at this stage in the game. Salvaging this directionless operation was an unlikely proposition even two weeks ago. This last few games of horror just cemented it.
 
Pronger84 said:
I'm saying its an option, people want a "tank rebuild", there ya go, just throwing it out there. Instead of casting blame, I'd love to hear what ideas you have to turn this joke of a season around.
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Trading young players for picks does not turn around the season at all.
 
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