Leaf Rumours

[Pronger84]

Trading young players for picks does not turn around the season at all.

I never said it did, if you were to actually read my post, trading players for picks was the 2nd option which to build the team long term.

 

[Pronger84]

Well let's be honest first, Pronger: the season is almost certainly over (at least insofar as making the post-season). The only thing that the Leafs can do at this point is reduction of damage and try to get out of the bottom five so as to not hand Boston a Ryan Murphy, Gabriel Landeskog, Sean Couturier, Ryan-Nugent Hopkins, or Adam Larsson. That's about all you can expect at this stage in the game. Salvaging this directionless operation was an unlikely proposition even two weeks ago. This last few games of horror just cemented it.

Yup, I agree this season is over, barring a miracle. The leafs need to do some serious epic paddling upstream to avoid going over the falls.

 

[MindzEye]

Avtsin was P84's proposition. Pacioretty would be a generous return for a UFA Kaberle. It's not like Kaberle is burning the league.

Someone want to share with me why a 22 yr old who has been entirely unable to break into the league regularly is a generous return for an impending UFA puck mover like Kaberle?

Put Kaberle on a team the lets him off of the leash Wilson has him and he's back to normal.

 

[Pronger84]

Someone want to share with me why a 22 yr old who has been entirely unable to break into the league regularly is a generous return for an impending UFA puck mover like Kaberle?

Put Kaberle on a team the lets him off of the leash Wilson has him and he's back to normal.

Because no one in their right minds not named Darryl Sutter is going to give up the farm for a rental player, sorry aint happening. The only way we get actual value is if we re-up kabs then stick him on the first sucker who comes sniffing around.

 

[Habsy]

IMO, I would re-sign him and try like a MFer to ship out Komi. Our top 4 when it was together this year was pretty solid:

Phaneuf Beauchemin
Kaberle Schenn

Then fill out the bottom with Gunnarsson, Aulie, Holzer, etc.

I'm not sure Burke would want Avtsin.

I would not want to send Avtsin to Toronto. The kid has mad skills. If he busts his hump in acclimating to the language and culture he could be a good one. Too early to cast him off.

 

[hockeylover]

I would not want to send Avtsin to Toronto. The kid has mad skills. If he busts his hump in acclimating to the language and culture he could be a good one. Too early to cast him off.

What was the reason he wasn't invited to Russian WJC this year? Any idea?

 

[Habsy]

You'd have to throw in a bit more then that. If Kabs signs an extension before going to les' habs, the asking price should be Avtsin and a 1st

A little more than Pacioretty? :lol

Yeah okay.

 

[Habsy]

Or how about we don't ship him up the 401 at all. You don't just trade him to a division rival and take whatever. That's silly.

Yeah it's not like Burke has traded with Boston or Buffalo... oh wait.

 

[MindzEye]

Because no one in their right minds not named Darryl Sutter is going to give up the farm for a rental player, sorry aint happening. The only way we get actual value is if we re-up kabs then stick him on the first sucker who comes sniffing around.

Players of Kaberle's calibre, even as an impending UFA, draws a lot more than that every year.

 

[Habsy]

Someone want to share with me why a 22 yr old who has been entirely unable to break into the league regularly is a generous return for an impending UFA puck mover like Kaberle?

Put Kaberle on a team the lets him off of the leash Wilson has him and he's back to normal.

Because he is finally coming into his own and 22 is not old at all? You are speaking of Pacioretty right? I wouldn't trade him for a UFA Kaberle.

 

[Habsy]

What was the reason he wasn't invited to Russian WJC this year? Any idea?

It was reported he would have declined. He is serious about making the NHL next year. That's what I read on Russianprospects anyway.

 

[MindzEye]

Call me when "coming into his own" includes playing in the NHL

 

[hockeylover]

Yeah it's not like Burke has traded with Boston or Buffalo... oh wait.

Oh yeah, and it worked so well I'm sure he's just chomping at the bit to do it again.

 

[Metalleaf]

Man these some shitty trade suggestions.

 

[Habsy]

Call me when Kaberle stops declining in numbers and signs a contract.

The Habs have 5 legitimate forward prospects in Hamilton and Pacioretty is currently #1. I wouldn't trade him away for a quick fix when forwards with size is exactly what the Habs need.

 

[JaysCyYoung]

The Habs should make a play for a guy like Dustin Penner or Ryan Malone, not Kaberle.

 

[Habsy]

Yep.

 

[hockeylover]

It was reported he would have declined. He is serious about making the NHL next year. That's what I read on Russianprospects anyway.

Why would going to WJC affect his chances of making the NHL next year?

As for Kaberle, I just don't want to see him 6 times a year in a Habs uniform. The idea that we would trade him for anything to the Habs just to get rid of him, as Pronger seemed to suggest by calling that team a "sucker" seems dumb to me.

 

[Habsy]

He needs to learn english said it is his #1 priority.

 

[MindzEye]

Call me when Kaberle stops declining in numbers and signs a contract.

Even as an impending UFA, he's worth more than that.