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A 22 yr old who isn't in the NHL isn't a "top prospect"

A "B" prospect, at best....which with his dominance in the AHL this year, I'd probably accept.
 
If we were to trade Kaberle to the Habs, I'd want their next 10 1st round draft picks, PK Subban and Tomas Plekanec.

Or in other words....I would have zero interest in giving Tomas Kaberle to the ****ing Montreal Canadiens. Kaberle needs to be re-signed long-term pronto, not peddled away to a division rival for whatever piddly return they're willing to give us. I mean, think about it Hab fans---how would you like to trade Andrei Markov to the Boston Bruins for their first rounder from 3 years ago?
 
here's a question, though: how dumb is burke going to look if kaberle walks this summer?

what a shit show that would be.
 
BeLeafer said:
I expect it.
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Yep, with the way Burke's shit on him in public (I especially loved the interview where he said losing Kaberle for nothing would actually be a plus for the team, just because of the added free cap space), and with his refusal to get rid of Zippy the pinhead, who has a moronic lack of appreciation for Kaberle's talent that borders on insanity, Kaberle would have to be a blue and white bleeding saint to re-sign in Toronto. Or some kind of masochist.

And yeah, I've defended Burke too, but if he rides out Wilson to another bottom-5 finish, and loses Kaberle for nothing at the end of the season, I'll be officially calling for his head.
 
And yeah, I've defended Burke too, but if he rides out Wilson to another bottom-5 finish, and loses Kaberle for nothing at the end of the season, I'll be officially calling for his head.
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Yeah, count me in. My list of grievances with Burke is growing far too frequently for my liking.
 
msun30 said:
here's a question, though: how dumb is burke going to look if kaberle walks this summer?

what a shit show that would be.
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What do you mean?

He'd get back that invaluable asset if Kaberle walks - $4.25 million in cap space.

Surely, $4.25 million in cap space >>>> Kaberle, right? Right???

It's so obvious it's gonna happen too, what with there being zero talk about reupping him, which Burke promised to get started on if he couldn't trade him in the summer.

Yet another pile of crap from the diarrhea king himself.
 
LeafGm said:
Yep, with the way Burke's shit on him in public (I especially loved the interview where he said losing Kaberle for nothing would actually be a plus for the team, just because of the added free cap space), and with his refusal to get rid of Zippy the pinhead, who has a moronic lack of appreciation for Kaberle's talent that borders on insanity, Kaberle would have to be a blue and white bleeding saint to re-sign in Toronto. Or some kind of masochist.

And yeah, I've defended Burke too, but if he rides out Wilson to another bottom-5 finish, and loses Kaberle for nothing at the end of the season, I'll be officially calling for his head.
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We already should be calling for his head. There are good things he's done, but the bad decisions and miscalculations have cost us dearly.

The only saving grace this offseason is to land a big name center UFA (or two) to strengthen the team moving forward. If he misses out on that because of his "principles" and ices more Brents and Mitchells he is totally out to lunch.
 
msun30 said:
here's a question, though: how dumb is burke going to look if kaberle walks this summer?

what a shit show that would be.
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Even more dumb than when we needed goals and he signed Armstrong and Lebda. What would he use Kaberle's cap space for? More of the same, I'm sure.

Burke has said he's not trading Kaberle this season and won't ask him to waive his no-trade. I've heard nothing about contract negotiations, either, so that leaves one option...simply letting him walk.

Even if they did move him, what would they get that would make it worthwhile? This team has nothing in the system to take over for that kind of player.
 
If Burke lets Kaberle walk for nothing this off-season, he should be fired on the spot.

He absolutely either needs to commit to him long-term, or convince him to waive his NTC so you can get assets back for him.
 
With the lack of top end talent looking to be available this summer Kaberle could be the most attractive player available at the deadline behind Richards. You can't let him walk. If you aren't resigning him you have to trade him at the deadline.

The only other good dmen on shitty teams that will be UFAs are McCabe and Pitkanen.

Speaking of Pitkanen, if Kaberle goes at the end of the year, that would be a guy that Burke should look to bring in as a replacement.
 
I think he honestly wouldve traded him prior to the season if he could get anything worthwhile back.

I suspect however that the offers were either crap, or included a terrible contract he didn't want (Malone).

He's run himself into a corner now though if he doesnt re-sign him. History suggests Tomas won't waive, which leaves cutting him loose as a strong possibility
 
Tomas agreed to waive the last two deadlines. Of course he wanted to retain some control because the NTC was lifted in the summer and he could be moved everywhere.

But this year is different from 98. If Burke tells him he's not going to be a Maple Leaf next year, he's not going to refuse to waive because he wants to stay in Toronto. I can't see him refusing to waive it, to play 15 meaningless games with the Leafs as opposed to trying to win a cup.
 
leafman101 said:
Tomas agreed to waive the last two deadlines. Of course he wanted to retain some control because the NTC was lifted in the summer and he could be moved everywhere.

But this year is different from 98. If Burke tells him he's not going to be a Maple Leaf next year, he's not going to refuse to waive because he wants to stay in Toronto. I can't see him refusing to waive it, to play 15 meaningless games with the Leafs as opposed to trying to win a cup.
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hmmm I feel like these are the exact same things we said back when Sundin and others were eligible to lift their NTC's.

We all know how many years that set us behind.
 
Nah, Sundin was different. He was at the end of the road and wasn't sure he was coming back and didn't want to give up on his team.

Kaberle would be going somewhere else next year anyway, and has already waived it twice.
 
sundin was kicked in the nuts by fletcher.

seriously, guys, don't you think it's a LITTLE telling that we haven't seen our captain of 10 years back in toronto yet?

they pissed the dude off. there's no doubt in mind that he felt slighted by fletcher basically trying to pull the rug out from under his feet and engineer a trade at the deadline against sundin's wishes.

do you guys seriously think that he wanted that half season in vancouver to be his legacy?

come on. mats wanted to retire here, and that idiot fletcher didn't want him to retire without getting grabovski and higgins in return.

and even if you don't buy that... you can shit on mats all you want but, **** me, how awful would it have been to see him donning a habs uniform?
 
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