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I think its way too early to label him a streaky player. He started off slow under the pressure of being a go to guy that lot of big offseason additions struggle through, and as soon as he started scoring he hasn't looked back. And its been almost 30 games now.

And this is on top of those numbers from the offseason which showed Versteeg scoring at a 70+ point pace in Chicago when playing first line minutes.

And you say he has been streaky since he entered the league as if he's not a 24 year old very early in his career.
 
I think you're underrating Versteeg, especially considering his age.

He's making a line go all by himself, and has been for a while now.
 
Even in the early games when he wasn't producing, he was doing all the same things he is now when he is producing. It was just a snakebite.
 
The only thing he was guilty of was being too much of a puck hog, trying to do too much on his own.

But the shot, the skill, the skating, the effort, it was all there from the start.
 
i think you guys overrate his all around game. he's still a cherry picker, and he isn't very good on the pk.

if he can keep up the 70 point pace, though, then no, he shouldn't be dealt.

i don't think that he will but i could be wrong.
 
Hey lets not chastise a guy for trying to impress all of us. I am stunned that more NHLers seem to have no interest in doing that, at all. Dion Phaneuf anyone?
 
one thing about phaneuf -- a lot of you have complained that he is slow... appearances are deceiving. he's an excellent skater, and maybe the fastest skating defenseman on the team. watch him relative to other players when he's rushing the puck. he has an extremely long slide, and it makes him look slower than he is. kind of like sundin.

phaneuf has excellent speed.

i do agree that the effort seems to be lacking, though.
 
Yeah, Phaneuf is definitely a good skater, and he protects the puck well and has an absolute cannon of a shot.

But rather than the effort being lacking - I don't think that's the case - I think the opportunity is lacking. Defensively, he's been pretty good overall. Offensively he's done squat, and I'd say that has a lot to do with Kabby and Versteeg taking the points on the PP, pretty much for the whole two minutes.

Speaking of, given that we rely so heavily on Kaberle - and the fact that he's awesome - when the hell is Burke going to get around to signing him?? Is the plan really to just let him walk? The height of negligence if Burke lets this go on much longer.
 
I understand exactly why people say Phaneuf lacks effort, but I'm not sure that's the case. It's true he doesn't always take that first step as soon as you think he should, though.

and agreed on Kaberle. People have been raving about Schenn this year but Kaberle has been by far our best dman, IMO. He's been excellent defensively, on pace for his usual 50+ pts, and has suddenly turned into a shotblocker to boot, with zero lazy stick penalties as well.
 
Phaneuf was hitting and getting involved in scrums last nights, which is perhaps where his effort has been most lacking of late.
 
If Phaneuf is worth 6.5 million in the cap world, what is Kaberle worth? Lot more.
 
teeds said:
If Phaneuf is worth 6.5 million in the cap world, what is Kaberle worth? Lot more.
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Good luck to whoever signs him then ....... paying huge money for a very very weak defensive player who`s best asset is carrying the puck, who shoots very little and likes to take the puck to the opps blueline and dump it in when everyone is standing still .... I will spend my money on markov instead and laugh at the idiot who spent the same money on kaberle ...
 
uncus said:
Good luck to whoever signs him then ....... paying huge money for a very very weak defensive player who`s best asset is carrying the puck, who shoots very little and likes to take the puck to the opps blueline and dump it in when everyone is standing still .... I will spend my money on markov instead and laugh at the idiot who spent the same money on kaberle ...
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Hey, Vito, how's woodbridge been treating you?
 
Neither of them are weak defensively, but they are however significantly different stylistically. I think Phaneuf is still highly tentative from that skate laceration that he suffered earlier in the season to be honest.
 
Ek has it that the hypothetical trade for Versteeg is Schenn from LA. He says it would need more from Toronto's end....

Burke has gone the brother route a few times already. LA could look at it as there is no way Schenn is cracking that line up, and Versteeg has the cup ring, and versatility.
 
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