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zeke said:
we'd be better off if we hadn't made that trade.
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nah. they had to get toskala out of there. there's a reason why the ducks quickly jettisoned him, too. the guy was a complete cancer.

meanwhile, the cancer survivor blake is still on the books next season.

it was a pretty crafty trade by burke. giguere was a gamble that didn't pay off, but now he gets a nice chunk of change to play around with this summer, he got rid of a problem in the dressing room and he cleared out blake... who has a $4mn cap hit (which is above his $3mn salary -- which isn't beneficial to a big spender like the leafs)... and is on pace for 15 goals and less than 30 points.

blake's on a huge downswing. he is, imo, virtually untradeable unless a team like the isles or coyotes really wants to cheap it out and spend below the cap.
 
Honestly, whats the most we could get for Giguere?

I know a lot on here think nothing, but honestly, what would someone give up for him?

Whatever it is, it surely can't be worth sending Reimer down and directly losing games from that. Come on burke.
 
Cojo said:
Honestly, whats the most we could get for Giguere?

I know a lot on here think nothing, but honestly, what would someone give up for him?

Whatever it is, it surely can't be worth sending Reimer down and directly losing games from that. Come on burke.
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Quality UFA goalies might get you a 2nd rounder at the deadline.

Average to mediocre ones like Giggy won't get you much. Although, Giggy has that Stanley Cup mystique most goalies don't have. That being said, I can't see the Leafs getting anything more than a 3rd rounder for him or a B or C type prospect.

It's just not worth playing him to build up his value because there isn't a market for goalies.
 
it isn't a mystique.

from 02-03 through 06-07 he might have been the best goalie in hockey.

looks like he aged quickly, though.
 
We'd still have Blake next year though instead of $6 million in cap space.

The problem wasn't the trade. The problem was playing the wrong goalie.
 
zeke said:
shoulda waived him.
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the only way to get him off the cap would have been sending him to the marlies.

unless some echl or international team was willing to take him on a loan (which was unlikely taht late in the season).

they had to trade him.
 
zeke said:
we would have had Reimer in net instead of Jiggy, Blake on the 3rd line instead of Sjostrom, and $2.5m more capsapce.

win/win/win
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$4mn less cap space next year being eaten up by a 38 year old 5'9 30 year old is a big, big, big downside.

i don't get it, zeke. i mean, yeah it looks like you were right about giguere being done and all... but it isn't as if they needed that $6mn in cap space to get anything done this past summer. they had the space to add a $3mn UFA, an extra $3mn through the versteeg trade, $1.5mn on lebda.. and are presently $3.5mn under the cap.

they got out a short-term problem by dumping toskala. and they got out of a long-temr problem by moving blake before he became completely untradeable. i mean... blake absolutely stinks now. he isn't worth half of that cap hit at this point. and it's only bound to get worse next year.
 
msun30 said:
the only way to get him off the cap would have been sending him to the marlies.

unless some echl or international team was willing to take him on a loan (which was unlikely taht late in the season).

they had to trade him.
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there was no other goalie on the marlies other than macdonald anyways.
 
zeke said:
coulda waived blake next year.
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you make it sound as if these things are easy.

you are limited in how many guys you can send to the farm.

pretty sure that they can't even waive giguere and demote him at this point, with zigomanis and finger down there.
 
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