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No reason whatsoever, especially when 1 of your 5 goalies is clearly not in the organization's future plan.

As bad as Gus' sophomore season has been, there's no reason to dump him and keep Giggy for half a season and then let him walk away ... it makes little sense for this season (since Giggy is not exactly standing on his head leading this team into the playoff neither) and it makes no sense for the future.

I think I also tend to give European goalies a bit more slack in the first couple seasons too. There's more adjustments they have to make than a NA goalie. Even Kiprusoff struggled with a .879 SV% in his sophomore season ... that's when SJ gave up on him and traded him to CAL, and he rebounded to .933 in his 3rd NHL season, essentially stealing the starting job in the 2nd half of that season.

And guess how old Kipper was in his sophomore season? 25.
 
except.... in kiprusoff's rookie season he posted a .915 sv%. and in the next year, his sub-.900 play was confined entirely to the first month of the season. he had exactly one start in november and one start in december.

again.. show me a goalie who has started his career like gus, and gone on to become a good nhl goalie.
 
the european goalie thing is nonsense, too. it was an excuse that was invented for that hack tellqvist.

lundqvist, rinne, bobrovsky, backstrom, bryzgalov, vokoun, hiller, lindback, lehtinen, halak, neurvith, varlamov, rask.... they were all good right away.
 
You don't have to give up on Gus, but it really isn't looking so good for him right now. He just isn't a good goalie at this point in his career. And he is already 26.
 
All we know for sure is that we don't need Giggy. Hell, even Giggy's said that. Everything else is a big question mark. We're so desperate for a good goalie after so many years of shit that we jump on everything. Sure Reimer's had a few good games...that certainly doesn't solidify the position for next year, at least not yet.

I'm still on the sign Vokoun bandwagon. Goalies are such a crapshoot I'm not prepared to pass on an opportunity like that just because we have some good prospects in goal. Or because we have the "Monster"(lol), for that matter. It's the one signing that would make the most difference in the team's fortunes. With an elite starting goalie, your other deficiencies become less glaring. Plus, 3 of our 4 divisional opponents have one, in case you need another reason.
 
kipper comparison works.

24: 5gms, .902
25: 20gms, .915
26: 22gms, .879
TOT: 47gms, .901


Gusto:

25: 42gms, .902
26: 22gms, .896
TOT: 64gms, .900
 
Kipper is a good comparison. Inconsistant goalie, who gets overrated because he makes athletic saves and has good streaks, but overall isn't that good.
 
Granted, Kipper is not the 'norm'.

But the point is, I wouldn't write off a 26 yrs old Euro goalie struggling in his sophomore season. I wouldn't anoint him the next #1, or even the next backup, but there's no reason to lose him for nothing at this point. He's in the same fold with Scrivens, Reimer and Rynnas. Any 2 of those 4 can be our goalies next season (assuming we sign nobody)
 
No he hasn't. He's been shit for 3 of the last 4 years, and is a career .913, but paid like and treated like a top goalie.
 
Kipper is a decent goalie, not a great one, I agree.

Very inconsistent. Like Gus has been and likely will be, even if he does reach his potential.

And Gust definitely has the potential to be similarly overrated based on spectacular saves.
 
Kipper is a workhorse, and yes he's overpaid because they force him to own a home in Calgary.
 
My MLSE contact is right beside me. Chicago and Toronto, HUGE DEAL. Might not happen, but it is HUGE. You heard it here FIRST. And no idea of the names, so don't ask. But for sure it probably includes SCHENN, BEAUCHEMIN or PHANEUF. One of those three is in the deal. And for forwards, GRABOVSKI is my speculation. Selling at the TOP.
 
teeds said:
My MLSE contact is right beside me. Chicago and Toronto, HUGE DEAL. Might not happen, but it is HUGE. You heard it here FIRST. And no idea of the names, so don't ask. But for sure it probably includes SCHENN, BEAUCHEMIN or PHANEUF. One of those three is in the deal. And for forwards, GRABOVSKI is my speculation. Selling at the TOP.
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LOL!
 
1. Phaneuf is not going anywhere. Burke will never move a guy he just named C.

2. Grabs ... I am not sure if Burke is sold on him. I mean, are you selling high? Or are you trading a player on the verge of breaking out? Is Grabs really a 70 points 2-way forward? Or is he a 2-way 50 points forward overachieving? I don't have the answer, but I know Wilson loves Grab, right from the beginning, and supported him even in his bad sophomore season.

3. Several western teams SHOULD be looking to make BIG deals ... CHI is one. SJ is another.
 
teeds said:
My MLSE contact is right beside me. Chicago and Toronto, HUGE DEAL. Might not happen, but it is HUGE. You heard it here FIRST. And no idea of the names, so don't ask. But for sure it probably includes SCHENN, BEAUCHEMIN or PHANEUF. One of those three is in the deal. And for forwards, GRABOVSKI is my speculation. Selling at the TOP.
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confirmed! grabo traded his X5 (never driven for 2 years) to chicago in exchange for harley from brown's dad dealership
 
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