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zeke said:
To tell the truth, Grabo's game looks a LOT like Dougie's.
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and how do you figure that? One was a phenomenal checker and offensive dynamo that like to setup his wingers and plays from the back boards, the other is a scorer that has limited defensive capabilities at this time.
 
teeds said:
I like Kadri but he will never be as good a skater as Doug was. Not even close. Doug was small but had a wrestlers build. Kadri is small but could blow up to 250lbs of fat. Doug is STILL in good shape. Always will be. He has a far more natural body for sports.
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Doug also came into the league as an extremely competent checker ... his defence was excellent.
He also had that intangible ... he hated to lose and would do anything to get that puck from, or where ever it needed to go, he would do his damn best to get it there.
I remember him dropping his gloves and grabbing an enraged probert when Clarks arms were tied up by someone else ... the same with Grimson. I dont see anyone on this team named kadri or grabo or kessel doing that ... but I could see MacArtur or Schenn doing that.
 
uncus said:
and how do you figure that? One was a phenomenal checker and offensive dynamo that like to setup his wingers and plays from the back boards, the other is a scorer that has limited defensive capabilities at this time.
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similar skaters, similar shot, similar competitiveness. watching grabo circle in the neutral zone and then double back again is eerily gilmouresque.

And Grabo's quite good defensively.
 
zeke said:
similar skaters, similar shot, similar competitiveness. watching grabo circle in the neutral zone and then double back again is eerily gilmouresque.

And Grabo's quite good defensively.
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Grabo and Gilmour have certain similarities: Both are small, both have great vision, both have incredible work ethic, I'd say Grabo has more speed then Gilmour, Gilmour wasnt breakaway fast but he used his speed more wisely then Grabo does. Also a big difference is Gilmour was 1000X the defensive player grabo will ever be.
 
Montreal has offered a first and a third for MacArthur and Burke is hesitating. I hate to sound like a total Leaf homer, but I actually wouldn't like that deal. As I think most draft picks suck, I like going with a proven thing. But Burke may take it.

Do NOT shoot the messenger and if I get too much flak for this, I will just go back to calling everyone here a Barney and Fred doppelganger.
 
teeds said:
Montreal has offered a first and a third for MacArthur and Burke is hesitating. I hate to sound like a total Leaf homer, but I actually wouldn't like that deal. As I think most draft picks suck, I like going with a proven thing. But Burke may take it.

If this is true, I can see why Burke is thinking about it. One on hand Mccarthur could very well just be a one year wonder and will demand too much money as a RFA, Burke would get a mid ranged 1st rounder, plus a 3rd. However on the other hand, theres a chance that Mccarthur is the real deal,, and IF hes really a legit 60-70pt player, he would come back to haunt us playing on a division rival. I think Burke shouldn't make the deal just yet, wait until the deadline, and explore the issue then.
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I wouldn't make that deal either. Anyone who ever watched Mac in junior and on that powerful 2005 Canadian junior team knows that what he's producing right now should not come as a shock. He's been perpetually under-utilized so far in his career and the offensive talent was always there.
 
The only way it would make any sense to trade Mac to a division rival for marginal picks, would be if he could package the 1st to get the first line player we need.
 
I don't really think the issue with MacArthur is whether this is a fluke or not. Its whether or not he is looking to cash in.

I'm confident he can be a 25/60 guy. I'm not confident the Leafs should sign too many more $3 million forwards though. The one asset they really have to get the top line talent they need is cap space.
 
To me I can't justify trading any of kuley-grabs-mac. They are perfect. and i know that sounds kind of stupid but they really are a great line. Mac should certainly be resigned, he represents everything that Burke claims to want in a player and in this team. I liked the signing in the summer but i never expected him to turn out this good!
 
Corky27 said:
To me I can't justify trading any of kuley-grabs-mac. They are perfect. and i know that sounds kind of stupid but they really are a great line. Mac should certainly be resigned, he represents everything that Burke claims to want in a player and in this team. I liked the signing in the summer but i never expected him to turn out this good!
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Say goodbye if it were me ... Montreal isnt even a lock to make the playoffs ... they are one skid mark shy of being out of the race and it is getting close to choke time for price.
Take the first and third... if burke wasnt willing to pay poni or antropov what they wanted, and macarthur will be looking for the same, say goodbye.
 
It depends how much MacArthur wants on a new deal. A 1st and 3rd would be a pretty good offer for a rental who very well could be in the midst of a career year.
 
The Green Hornet said:
he is not a rental though. restricted free agent this summer... id be inclined to try and extend him.
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The thing is Mccarthur is at his peak, he's not going to get any better then what he is now, the leafs are in a position of strength here, and now would be the time they'd get the best return on him. A 1st and a 3rd is a very good deal, for someone who has been at best an average player up until this season. If I was Burke I'd strongly be considering the offer.

Burke if he does this deal can always try and use the 1st and his 2nd rounder to climb up and select a much higher 1st rounder (top 5-10).
 
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