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Leaf Rumours

Montreal has offered a first and a third for MacArthur and Burke is hesitating. I hate to sound like a total Leaf homer, but I actually wouldn't like that deal. As I think most draft picks suck, I like going with a proven thing. But Burke may take it.

Do NOT shoot the messenger and if I get too much flak for this, I will just go back to calling everyone here a Barney and Fred doppelganger.

it's a brutal deal. the chances of a 15-20th pick in this crap draft turning into a player as good as Mac even within 5yrs is maybe 10%.
 
it's a brutal deal. the chances of a 15-20th pick in this crap draft turning into a player as good as Mac even within 5yrs is maybe 10%.

Actually its a fair deal,

Mccarthur up until this season has been a 35pt player (don't care what the reasons are), he's so far having a dream year. He's nowhere near an an Antropov calibre player (and even he got a 2nd rounder), the fact montreal is offering up a 1st is at least something Burke should seriously stop and consider.
 
Why is a 25 year old not going to get any better?

Because he's been given topline mins and is on pace for 70pts, which is probably the best season he'll ever have. Mccarthur on a good to great team assuming he gets 2nd line mins, will be a 50-55pt player. Like I said, his value is most lilkey at his peak, Burke would be a fool to not consider the offer.
 
I really like our scouting department and Morrison. They've done some great things with middle round picks. I wouldn't mind giving them a first to work with. In general the odds of that pick becoming a good player aren't great, but I'd give these guys as many picks as I could. They are good. IMO they could unearth the Carlson's and Eberle's of the late first round.

It would be some brilliant asset management. Turn a bargain bin purchase into a top pick in 6 months.

Again, it all depends on whether or not Mac is affordable to bring back.
 
"1sts" aren't magical.

clarke is the kind of player you HOPE a 15th-20th overall pick turns into in 5 years.
 
The over rating of 1st rd picks again. Outside the top 5 this draft is shat so unless someone is offering that up for Mac they can fawk off
 
Yeah, I'm not big on trading MacArthur. If this was the '08 or '09 Draft class, this deal would be more appealing. But with how mercurial this draft is, it's not worth the risk.
 
You people are forgetting Burke can use the 1st rounder, coupled with the 2nd rounder (32nd overall) and use it to trade up to acquire a top 5-10 pick. Makes sense, no?
 
A 5-10 pick isn't even worth it though.

It would need to be a top 5 pick. And you're likely not getting that with a mid round 1st rounder and a 2nd. If the leafs had a top 5 pick and traded it for that i would be wild.
 
Burke isn't building a team for 5 years from now, like it or not. Burkes team needs to peak 2-3 years from now. Mac is or should be part of the core we're building around. Unless a 1st line center is involved, none of these guys should be involved and by 'these guys' i mean kuley, grabbo, mac, kessel, bozzy, steeger.
 
Exactly, beyond the first 5 picks this draft stinks.

This isn't entirely true. There are players after the first five picks who have some serious potential. It's the likelihood of their reach that potential that's being called into question. There are fewer "safe" picks in this draft.
 
Moving away for the rumour, would you guys sign MacArthur for 4 years $16 million?

To this point he's having a similar (although better) season to what Patrick Sharp did when he broke out and signed the big deal. Similar age. Similar background.

IMO he'd be completely justified in asking for that kind of deal if he keeps this up. Still not sure I'd want to give it to him though. I guess it worked out well for the Hawks.
 
4 mill is the max I'd go.. As mentioned at other times... that line is an awesome 2nd line.... we need two big dudes to play with Kessel and that line of Mac Grabs and Kule would be AWESOME as a a second line.
 
Moving away for the rumour, would you guys sign MacArthur for 4 years $16 million?

No way. Not on the basis of one year's solid production.

I would only give him a 2 or MAYBE a 3 year deal for the right price. We have enough guys on big contracts not earning their money.
 
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